LR reliability
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Porker87

Original Poster:

14 posts

13 months

Saturday 18th October
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Thinking of a 2-3 year old Discovery or Defender 110 but are the poor reliability and dealer service stories true?

Would welcome feedback from owners experiences

Thanks

covmutley

3,244 posts

208 months

Saturday 18th October
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You already know the answer. It might happen, or you might get lucky. Expect it to and have a pot set aside of £5k and youl probably be fine.

Never owned one, but lots of people seem to say they are worth it still. Sat in a defender 90 the other week and thought the interior was really quite basic, but I guess that's the point.

butchstewie

61,115 posts

228 months

Saturday 18th October
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Always remember talking to a salesman in a Japanese dealer that had a Land Rover dealership part of the same group but across the road and he'd worked at both.

His view was he came into the Japanese dealership every morning and everything "just worked" whilst he would come into the Land Rover dealership and it would be lucky dip around random cars not starting doors being unlocked windows being down or one wheels suspension having decided to lower itself overnight.

That said I had a Freelander 2 and it was flawless - I was told that was because they built them at Halewood.

Decky_Q

1,851 posts

195 months

Saturday 18th October
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They have 2 terrible engines the 2.0d ingenium and the 3.0 sdv6 that are absolutely to be avoided.

If you really want one, the 3.0 tdv6 has engine number ranges that were specifically to be avoided, or older ones over 100k seem to be safe bets engine wise.

Both tdv8 engines were excellent (3.6 or 4.4), as is the 2.2td engines, very reliable.

ETA I just reread your post and this wont apply to a 2 year old car, but I'll leave it here if it's of use to anyone.

Furbo

2,044 posts

50 months

Saturday 18th October
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Porker87 said:
Thinking of a 2-3 year old Discovery or Defender 110 but are the poor reliability and dealer service stories true?
Yes

GR_TVR

769 posts

102 months

Saturday 18th October
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I've owned 7 JLR cars and the only issues I've had is the bolt coming loose on the spoiler on a RR Sport causing it to rattle when you shut the door, and a massage seat "nodule" getting stuck out on a RR. Both easily fixed under warranty.

I've owned a 2023 and a 2024 Discovery D300 and both were faultless - fantastic cars!

The dealers can be hit and miss, but it's worth putting up with them for the product.

ChocolateFrog

33,083 posts

191 months

Saturday 18th October
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Probably a bit like owning a chimpanzee.

It'll be a faithful old friend for years but then one day will rip your face off for no apparent reason.

Trevor555

4,901 posts

102 months

Saturday 18th October
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Having worked in the motor trade for 36 years I personally don't touch any JLR products.

Having said that, many of the JLR cars that come into the trade are the one's with problems that their owners are getting rid of.

So I've seen the very worst of them, over, and over, again.

The most recent an I-Pace with battery problems that JLR simply wont deal with.

Enough to put me off owning one personally.

Porker87

Original Poster:

14 posts

13 months

Saturday 18th October
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Will wait to see what Mrs Reeves has to say in the budget first. A mixed bag of opinions and good to hear. Thanks everyone.

Furbo

2,044 posts

50 months

Saturday 18th October
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Trevor555 said:
Having worked in the motor trade for 36 years I personally don't touch any JLR products.

Having said that, many of the JLR cars that come into the trade are the one's with problems that their owners are getting rid of.

So I've seen the very worst of them, over, and over, again.

The most recent an I-Pace with battery problems that JLR simply wont deal with.

Enough to put me off owning one personally.
I’ve had them for about 25 years and have one now. New ones are a PITA until the snagging list is done and the dealerships are generally st.


UKsandman

2,973 posts

156 months

Saturday 18th October
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I had had a few land rovers/range rovers. I will never buy another one without a Land Rover warranty.

Kuwahara

1,300 posts

36 months

Saturday 18th October
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How is it even possible to have so many inherent problems in this day and age ,why didn t they just buy a Land Cruiser and see how it s put together .;)

ninepoint2

3,761 posts

178 months

Saturday 18th October
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Recent experience of dealers, not a LR granted but a Jaguar was dreadful, parts availability was dire and I suspect the recent attack they suffered on their IT systems has only made it worse, pity really as the car was nice.

a_dreamer

2,074 posts

55 months

Saturday 18th October
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I have heard enough stories to put a doubt in my mind that I'm likely to have an issue and unlikely to be happy in how it's resolved.

I probably over estimate the likelihood of it happening but that leads me to think it would not be worth it. Prefer peace of mind.

InformationSuperHighway

7,111 posts

202 months

Saturday 18th October
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I just picked this up:



70k miles, 2018 V6 Petrol with LR warranty (paid extra for the peace of mind).

It’s genuinely the best car I’ve ever owned (so far as it hasn’t let me down hehe).

Just go for it. Life’s too short.. even ‘reliable’ brands have issues.

paul_c123

1,300 posts

11 months

Sunday 19th October
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The problem is, they're great when they work. There is nothing quite like a decent Range Rover (or one of the nicer end of Discos).

This draws non-car people towards them - think, school-run mums, drug dealers, etc

Half the problem is the build quality issues from the terrible strike-heavy days of the 1970s never really got fully resolved, they're still screwing them together badly with silly mistakes here and there. And the other half of the problem is the dealers aren't that great at fixing them either. Combine that with stratospheric pricing for dealer hourly rate, genuine parts prices and champagne lifestyle lemonade budget owners and there's a lot of Land Rovers out there which aren't quite right.

Oh, and aftermarket warranty firms which are experts at avoiding actual payouts.

Familymad

1,444 posts

235 months

Sunday 19th October
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I think the new stuff from 2022 onwards has been way better. Hardly hear a peep out of new RR, RRS or Defender owners now?

Furbo

2,044 posts

50 months

Sunday 19th October
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Familymad said:
I think the new stuff from 2022 onwards has been way better. Hardly hear a peep out of new RR, RRS or Defender owners now?
They are still by the side of the road somewhere.

Since I've been running them, Land Rover has been saying "we've fixed the reliability issues now". Before I bought my first, friends who owned them claimed they were 100% reliable. Once I had one and it wasn't they felt able to be more honest. It was like I'd joined Fight Club or something.


M.F.D

879 posts

119 months

Sunday 19th October
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Owned 1 modern LR/RR and will never own another. Shocking reliability, even worse customer support from their 'experience centre'.

Had many friends who have also been stung big time, different models (Disco Sport, Evoque, Disco, RRS etc)

Don't do it.

valiant

12,703 posts

178 months

Sunday 19th October
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LR are just plain weird when it comes to reliability.

One car off the line will be utterly reliable with nary a bill needing to be replaced in 10 years and 150k miles outside of regular servicing and the very next car off the line will barely make it out of the dealer’s lot before breaking down and prove to be a nightmare to own.

Add in all their Ingenium woes and cranks made of chocolate with a soupçon of disinterested dealers and you can see why some prospective owners are a bit hesitant to buy.