Reeves sets sights on Motability to save £1billion in Budget
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Reeves sets sights on Motability to save £1billion in Budget: Will Chancellor scrap tax breaks for disability car scheme users?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15203385/...
"Ms Reeves is unlikely to limit who can access the scheme, even after it emerged that people deemed to be suffering from constipation, tennis elbow and anxiety qualify."
This should be in the news section but I can't post there yet. Is there away of keeping eligibility without going too far?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15203385/...
"Ms Reeves is unlikely to limit who can access the scheme, even after it emerged that people deemed to be suffering from constipation, tennis elbow and anxiety qualify."
This should be in the news section but I can't post there yet. Is there away of keeping eligibility without going too far?
BlueJazz said:
Reeves sets sights on Motability to save £1billion in Budget: Will Chancellor scrap tax breaks for disability car scheme users?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15203385/...
"Ms Reeves is unlikely to limit who can access the scheme, even after it emerged that people deemed to be suffering from constipation, tennis elbow and anxiety qualify."
This should be in the news section but I can't post there yet. Is there away of keeping eligibility without going too far?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15203385/...
"Ms Reeves is unlikely to limit who can access the scheme, even after it emerged that people deemed to be suffering from constipation, tennis elbow and anxiety qualify."
This should be in the news section but I can't post there yet. Is there away of keeping eligibility without going too far?
Absolute cobblers that people who “only have” those conditions will qualify.
I’ll get the usual NP&E tropes out the way early:
Dacia Duster
Citroen Ami
Give them a bus pass
10 year old cars
Free cars
Picture of a 1970s Invacar
Now that’s done, personally I think this will be yet another ham-fisted “money saving” idea that will end up costing the taxpayer. AIUI, it’s intended that the ability to top-up the PIP payment for the lease will be restricted, which will obviously reduce competition between manufacturers and increase demand for the lower priced vehicles, which presumably will therefore increase in cost.
The suggestion of VAT & IPT on the lease might have some value as it presumably will still allow top-ups and maintain competition even though it’ll still result in more down-trading & some of the issues above.
There still doesn’t seem to be a discussion about the conditions that attract the mobility component of PIP, which is what often drives the headlines above.
Dacia Duster
Citroen Ami
Give them a bus pass
10 year old cars
Free cars
Picture of a 1970s Invacar
Now that’s done, personally I think this will be yet another ham-fisted “money saving” idea that will end up costing the taxpayer. AIUI, it’s intended that the ability to top-up the PIP payment for the lease will be restricted, which will obviously reduce competition between manufacturers and increase demand for the lower priced vehicles, which presumably will therefore increase in cost.
The suggestion of VAT & IPT on the lease might have some value as it presumably will still allow top-ups and maintain competition even though it’ll still result in more down-trading & some of the issues above.
There still doesn’t seem to be a discussion about the conditions that attract the mobility component of PIP, which is what often drives the headlines above.
BlueJazz said:
"Ms Reeves is unlikely to limit who can access the scheme, even after it emerged that people deemed to be suffering from constipation, tennis elbow and anxiety qualify."
Is that a Boolean 'and'? Does that mean if I have constipation and tennis elbow, but I'm quite chilled out about it, then I don't qualify?
We lived next door to a family who were not necessarily bad people but knew all the schemes etc
They were into low level drug dealing, dog breeding and all sorts of iffy stuff, so we kept them sweet whilst we saved up to move (the land next to us was developed into social housing just after we purchased)
Any way, they both had motability cars, the strange thing wasn’t to they both belonged to family members who lived elsewhere
These poor cars were properly used and abused.
They were into low level drug dealing, dog breeding and all sorts of iffy stuff, so we kept them sweet whilst we saved up to move (the land next to us was developed into social housing just after we purchased)
Any way, they both had motability cars, the strange thing wasn’t to they both belonged to family members who lived elsewhere
These poor cars were properly used and abused.
geeks said:
mike9009 said:
I think I understand how Motability works. It ought to be means tested.
One post after mine and there it is.I am T1D (for the last 44 years) and reasonably comfortable. I often query why I don't pay prescription charges. And I would willingly to pay if I had to.
The benefits system is not a bottomless pit and frequently does not cater for the most needy.
Throwing your arms up with a one liner does not explain.....
Gecko1978 said:
It won't be cut because back bench mps would rebel. So she will raise tax on the better off and business.
Business will leave and close and people on 100k a year will have less to spend this economy will slow.
She can't see it
I think she can to a certain extent, she just can't do anything about it. Business will leave and close and people on 100k a year will have less to spend this economy will slow.
She can't see it
Edited by borcy on Saturday 18th October 12:57
mike9009 said:
geeks said:
mike9009 said:
I think I understand how Motability works. It ought to be means tested.
One post after mine and there it is.I am T1D (for the last 44 years) and reasonably comfortable. I often query why I don't pay prescription charges. And I would willingly to pay if I had to.
The benefits system is not a bottomless pit and frequently does not cater for the most needy.
Throwing your arms up with a one liner does not explain.....
On your example its actually more like the difference between gratis meds and the full price of your medication not the prescription charge.
Sheepshanks said:
mike9009 said:
I am T1D (for the last 44 years) and reasonably comfortable. I often query why I don't pay prescription charges. And I would willingly to pay if I had to.
No reason why you can t pay if you want to - just don t claim the exemption.I donate to a local charity instead.... If the government cannot sort this out, I will choose where 'my' money goes. Equally my parents would give their winter fuel allowance (and a lot more) to a national charity.
iMO the benefits system in the UK should be a safety net for those unable to support themselves, not a top up for the well off to get a better subsidised car (extreme example to make a point, but I have known people doing this).
I realise where the argument can go on this......free education, free NHS could also be 'means' tested. I don't agree with that.....but 'money' is not handed out for these services.
At some stage, we need to make decisions to seriously curb the national debt. To me, this is low hanging fruit.
geeks said:
mike9009 said:
geeks said:
mike9009 said:
I think I understand how Motability works. It ought to be means tested.
One post after mine and there it is.I am T1D (for the last 44 years) and reasonably comfortable. I often query why I don't pay prescription charges. And I would willingly to pay if I had to.
The benefits system is not a bottomless pit and frequently does not cater for the most needy.
Throwing your arms up with a one liner does not explain.....
On your example its actually more like the difference between gratis meds and the full price of your medication not the prescription charge.
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