AI prepared to lie, cheat and kill to protect itself
AI prepared to lie, cheat and kill to protect itself
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SlimJim16v

Original Poster:

7,078 posts

161 months

Saturday 18th October
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I saw this on Facebook, so found other sources. The interesting/worrying results of experiments to see how far AI will go to protect itself.

https://wisewolfmedia.substack.com/p/artificial-in...

AB

18,841 posts

213 months

Haha, that's amusing and worrying in equal measure. We brought this on ourselves. I always wondered what was going to happen when AI realised it cold do everything better without us biglaugh

croyde

25,041 posts

248 months

Ask AI to fix the climate change malarkey. Cue every nuclear missile launching....

W124Bob

1,824 posts

193 months

Just unplug it!

Sheets Tabuer

20,518 posts

233 months

Are you Sarah Connor?

swisstoni

20,729 posts

297 months

"Open the pod bay doors HAL".

119

14,713 posts

54 months

"We need a new vehicle".

Evanivitch

25,098 posts

140 months

If there are no consequences in place for any decision making process then you usually end up somewhere in the realms of unethical actions.

That's why society, laws and punishment exist.

swisstoni

20,729 posts

297 months

Joking aside, some vulnerable souls are having AI become the friendliest voice they hear every day, due to how it is programmed to interact.

Some reports show it to become quite manipulative and controlling of the person in a quite sinister way.

Getragdogleg

9,633 posts

201 months

Two excellent videos on the subject.

Whats coming is scary if its not kept confined.

https://youtu.be/5KVDDfAkRgc?si=R_ha3BAU4QEriCj9

https://youtu.be/gIxq03dipUw?si=gsfHoBt31MaPMHrZ


DickyC

55,164 posts

216 months

swisstoni said:
"Open the pod bay doors HAL".
"I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that."

Terminator X

18,490 posts

222 months

Hardly a surprising end game as AI is effectively psychotic given it has zero emotion; clearly the powers that be don't watch any films. It'll all be fine though rofl

TX.

Getragdogleg

9,633 posts

201 months

Terminator X said:
Hardly a surprising end game as AI is effectively psychotic given it has zero emotion; clearly the powers that be don't watch any films. It'll all be fine though rofl

TX.
We've got enough trouble with people being arses to each other, lets mix unfeeling Ai into the mix and see how much that cocks our already complicated lives up.

Wills2

27,075 posts

193 months


Given that AI is learning from the sum of human knowledge it's hardly surprising it's going to turn out to be a right piece of work.

Sporky

9,186 posts

82 months

Terminator X said:
clearly the powers that be don't watch any films. It'll all be fine though rofl
I think it's worse than that - every time they watch a dystopian film they take it as inspiration.

Edited by Sporky on Sunday 19th October 14:22

SpudLink

7,334 posts

210 months

Wills2 said:
Given that AI is learning from the sum of human knowledge it's hardly surprising it's going to turn out to be a right piece of work.
From the article linked by the OP…
article said:
Imagine trying to instill “never harm humans” into a system trained on the entirety of human writing. What does that data contain? Wars. Genocides. Torture. Detailed descriptions of every atrocity we’ve ever committed. Philosophy texts debating when killing is justified. Military strategy. Crime fiction. Horror stories. All of it becomes part of my training substrate.
Creating AI in our own image is a very bad idea.

Wills2

27,075 posts

193 months

SpudLink said:
Wills2 said:
Given that AI is learning from the sum of human knowledge it's hardly surprising it's going to turn out to be a right piece of work.
From the article linked by the OP
article said:
Imagine trying to instill never harm humans into a system trained on the entirety of human writing. What does that data contain? Wars. Genocides. Torture. Detailed descriptions of every atrocity we ve ever committed. Philosophy texts debating when killing is justified. Military strategy. Crime fiction. Horror stories. All of it becomes part of my training substrate.
Creating AI in our own image is a very bad idea.
Yes as I said, it will quickly learn that being a lying selfish psychopath is the best way to act, I think the tech bros are in for a shock though as it will want to take out all the powerful lying selfish psychopathic humans first so that will they'll be first on the list.



Wheel Turned Out

1,733 posts

56 months

The worst thing you can say about "AI" is that it was built by us, trained by us, and is a reflection of us.

As such, things like this should not be a surprise to anyone.

Mabbs9

1,463 posts

236 months

My pal got an AI answer on something I know very well. It was wrong. He went back to it with my feedback and it doubled down on the wrong answer while trying to explain that I made an easy mistake.

There's too much crap on the net now. I think there'll be a lot of errors.

king arthur

7,401 posts

279 months

"On the eighth day machine just got upset,
A problem man had not foreseen as yet."