RE: Manhart liberates 800hp from Range Rover Sport SV
RE: Manhart liberates 800hp from Range Rover Sport SV
Thursday 30th October

Manhart liberates 800hp from Range Rover Sport SV

Manhart specialises in BMW tuning; the SV has a BMW engine - you can see how they got there...


While there are one or two drawbacks around the silliest Range Rover Sports using a BMW engine rather than the old supercharged V8 - sound being the primary one - it does open up some advantages as well. There are the fuel economy benefits for starters, plus there’s the tuning potential offered up by a twin-turbo setup; no need for a shorter pulley or such to liberate extra horsepower when gains are so easily achievable via a software tweak. It’s that kind of potential which Manhart, unsurprisingly, is already taking advantage of. 

As BMW folk primarily, the 4.4-litre N63 will have been familiar to Manhart long before the SV’s introduction, which might be why this upgrade hasn’t taken too long. 805hp is the headline output, a healthy 170hp over the standard SV’s max power, which required nothing more than a new exhaust and Manhart’s box of software tricks known as MHtronik. There’s the small matter of more than 700lb ft, too - 708 to be precise, another chunky uplift from the standard car, which is rated at 553lb ft. That’s some going from software and an exhaust, demonstrating just what headroom is in the old V8. 

That is unlikely to prove a problem for the standard chassis given its 6D-furnished knack for boggling your mind, though Manhart will also provide a lowering kit that furnishes the SV with new coupling rods if you really want to sit closer to the road. The tuner describes the resulting relationship with its 24-inch forged rims as a ‘snug fit’ - which is likely putting it mildly given previous experience of the flagship in standard trim. 

In fact, it is telling that Manhart has chosen to tinker with precious little else about the SV, Land Rover’s stylistic choices already nudging well into ‘bling’ territory. Consequently, the eagle-eyed might spot the livery kit and branded floor mats— but otherwise the firm has wisely considered the already liberal application of carbon fibre (outside) and leather (inside) appropriate enough for its purposes. Assuming you forgo the reduction in ride height (which you should), Manhart’s idea of an SV is basically an SV with more than 800hp and a chunkier stainless steel exhaust. All things being equal, that might be just the ticket…


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Rob-s5mok

Original Poster:

131 posts

120 months

Thursday 30th October
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Coming soon to the Defender Octa I would assume? That will be a nice e bit of kit.

Andy86GT

779 posts

85 months

Thursday 30th October
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24" rims, is that a record? When will this trend for bigger and bigger wheels end?

GreatScott2016

2,114 posts

108 months

Thursday 30th October
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Andy86GT said:
24" rims, is that a record? When will this trend for bigger and bigger wheels end?
Agreed, they look a tad “cartoonish” to me. This is a trend as you say and there does come a point where an over sized rim just looks wrong. Saw a G87 M2 for sale with upgraded staggered 20/21 inch rims and the rears looked awful. Hey ho, sign of the times smile

Caddyshack

13,408 posts

226 months

Thursday 30th October
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Andy86GT said:
24" rims, is that a record? When will this trend for bigger and bigger wheels end?
24 inch rims in black….how to ruin a Rangie in one swoop. My Rangie is much better on 19 with side wall than the 22s it came on.

Bispoto

130 posts

92 months

Thursday 30th October
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Out of idle curiosity; anyone any idea of costs, just for the exhaust and software?

pSyCoSiS

4,052 posts

225 months

Thursday 30th October
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I quite like that. Colour really suits it. However, I hate the rear end of this shape Sport - the back looks like it has been hit and pushed the lights up toward the window. The rear lights sit too high. Front and side profile looks nice.


DonkeyApple

65,435 posts

189 months

Thursday 30th October
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That's going to be fun. The driver won't even see which way it went.

Caddyshack

13,408 posts

226 months

Thursday 30th October
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pSyCoSiS said:
I quite like that. Colour really suits it. However, I hate the rear end of this shape Sport - the back looks like it has been hit and pushed the lights up toward the window. The rear lights sit too high. Front and side profile looks nice.
All that money and you don’t get the split tailgate on the sport

Caddyshack

13,408 posts

226 months

Thursday 30th October
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Bispoto said:
Out of idle curiosity; anyone any idea of costs, just for the exhaust and software?
Looks super expensive. The German site looks
Like 7000 euros for exhaust and 2700 for ecu box map thing. I wonder what power you might get with a simple remap from normal tuner? Also begs the question if it is worth it? It would go alright anyway…buy a sports car or fast estate if you want to go faster.

Bispoto

130 posts

92 months

Thursday 30th October
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Appreciated Caddyshack. Yes I know what you mean I am not certain how comfortable it would be going warp speed in an SUV. Not that I wouldn't mind trying!

Caddyshack

13,408 posts

226 months

Thursday 30th October
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Bispoto said:
Appreciated Caddyshack. Yes I know what you mean I am not certain how comfortable it would be going warp speed in an SUV. Not that I wouldn't mind trying!
My Autobiography is about 350hp and a chunk of torque, it actually hustles along very well despite the Rangie bulk and Gold Gti speed is about right for cross country pace but much beyond that and you are fighting physics, mine has active anti roll and really needs that. A good pace is nice, really fast is not nice, especially for passengers.

The SVa would be fun to try but I doubt it’s like a sporty BMW saloon

DonkeyApple

65,435 posts

189 months

Thursday 30th October
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Bispoto said:
Appreciated Caddyshack. Yes I know what you mean I am not certain how comfortable it would be going warp speed in an SUV. Not that I wouldn't mind trying!
It's tremendous fun and more relaxing than doing so in a sports car or estate. It's just a different type of fun. The key is to have all three and then just use whichever one takes the fancy.

Some people seem to think that sitting higher up is scary for some reason but it isn't and it's usually a quicker way to cross country.

If you already had the car and the right to bugger about with it then why not make a silly wagon a little sillier?

DonkeyApple

65,435 posts

189 months

Thursday 30th October
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Bispoto said:
Appreciated Caddyshack. Yes I know what you mean I am not certain how comfortable it would be going warp speed in an SUV. Not that I wouldn't mind trying!
It's tremendous fun and more relaxing than doing so in a sports car or estate. It's just a different type of fun. The key is to have all three and then just use whichever one takes the fancy.

Some people seem to think that sitting higher up is scary for some reason but it isn't and it's usually a quicker way to cross country.

If you already had the car and the right to bugger about with it then why not make a silly wagon a little sillier?

Wardy78

2,061 posts

78 months

Thursday 30th October
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I like the look of these more and more. Far nicer and less 'CH' than the old SVR.

Interesting to see if the Manhart pipes improve the exhaust note, the one big disappointment of this SV (and the OCTA).

nismo48

5,942 posts

227 months

Thursday 30th October
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Reckon that's one mad,bad thing to hustle around.

CraigyMc

18,036 posts

256 months

Thursday 30th October
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The previous one with under 600bhp had a stated speed of 184mph...

garypotter

1,996 posts

170 months

Thursday 30th October
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Nope does nothing for me personally and with reliability issues i would not spending that amount of money on a LR model

sidesauce

2,967 posts

238 months

Thursday 30th October
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Andy86GT said:
24" rims, is that a record? When will this trend for bigger and bigger wheels end?
You have much to learn as the trend will never end. "Donks" are a thing and have been for decades; they've most certainly influenced car design and currently, 34" are the biggest I've seen but there are many, many more cars riding on 26/28/30" rims...



No, that's not Photoshop - those really are 34" rims.

Mr.Jimbo

2,084 posts

203 months

Thursday 30th October
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Putting my engine nerd hat on for a second, the N63 was only used in Range Rover & Sport (L460 & 1) at 530PS (and even then it s a proprietary JLR spec engine with unique sump, harnesses etc)

The engine here is again a JLR derivative of the S68 which itself evolved from the S63 engine.

Edited by Mr.Jimbo on Thursday 30th October 17:27

Andy86GT

779 posts

85 months

Friday 31st October
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sidesauce said:
Andy86GT said:
24" rims, is that a record? When will this trend for bigger and bigger wheels end?
You have much to learn as the trend will never end. "Donks" are a thing and have been for decades; they've most certainly influenced car design and currently, 34" are the biggest I've seen but there are many, many more cars riding on 26/28/30" rims...



No, that's not Photoshop - those really are 34" rims.
Err, wow!