UPS MD-11F Crash - Louisville, USA
UPS MD-11F Crash - Louisville, USA
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airbusA346

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Tuesday
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Reports on the news and social media saying that a UPS McDonnell Douglas MD-11F has crashed after take off in Louisville. The aircraft was heading to Honolulu.

Looks like there is a large fire at the crash site. One video I saw it looks like they were in trouble while still on the runway with a fire on the left wing/engine.


https://news.sky.com/story/cargo-plane-crashes-at-...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c201kgq59qgt



Edited by airbusA346 on Tuesday 4th November 23:33

The Redcoat

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183 months

Tuesday
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There's a video on X showing the aircraft taking off: https://x.com/BNONews/status/1985845907191889930?t....

airbusA346

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172 months

Tuesday
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This was on Reddit.

Uncontained engine failure ??


DavePanda

6,764 posts

253 months

Tuesday
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Looks like catastrophic engine failure past V1, they had no chance sadly

airbusA346

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RDMcG

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226 months

Yesterday (00:05)
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RIP the unfortunate crew and any other victims.

IanH755

2,450 posts

139 months

Yesterday (00:13)
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Looks to have crashed through a mix of residential and semi-industrial (warehouses etc) areas which were at the end of the runway.

hidetheelephants

31,771 posts

212 months

Yesterday (01:22)
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A petroleum recycling business under the flightpath seems like a poor zoning decision.

JoshSm

2,212 posts

56 months

Yesterday (02:36)
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hidetheelephants said:
A petroleum recycling business under the flightpath seems like a poor zoning decision.
To be fair, anything other than an empty field is a bad idea if someone is going to land a plane on top of it.

Plus going from the size of it there will have been far more fuel on the aircraft than in the little tanks the recycling place had.

Byker28i

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236 months

Yesterday (05:43)
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Report:

Austin Prefect

1,273 posts

11 months

Yesterday (06:29)
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There are suggestions online that no1 engine literally fell off, starting a fire in the wing. The hot gases from that could be enough to interfere with the no2 engine.

Rusty Old-Banger

6,144 posts

232 months

Yesterday (07:07)
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Bbc reporting it had 38,000 gallons of fuel on board. I'm sure it's "normal" for large planes but my god that sounds like a HUGE amount.

GreigR

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225 months

Yesterday (07:16)
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Rusty Old-Banger said:
Bbc reporting it had 38,000 gallons of fuel on board. I'm sure it's "normal" for large planes but my god that sounds like a HUGE amount.
That sounds about right. The ‘ER’ capacity is 42,000 gallons.

butchstewie

61,419 posts

229 months

Yesterday (07:17)
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Austin Prefect said:
There are suggestions online that no1 engine literally fell off, starting a fire in the wing. The hot gases from that could be enough to interfere with the no2 engine.
There are photos (unconfirmed officially I assume) of pretty much an entire engine left on the damned runway yikes

Awful frown

MitchT

16,946 posts

228 months

Yesterday (08:21)
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Sounds not entirely dissimiilar to American 191...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Fl...

Incident aircraft was, apparently, subjected to two hours of repairs to its left engine and/or related components prior to departure.

Edited by MitchT on Wednesday 5th November 08:23

gotoPzero

19,375 posts

208 months

Yesterday (08:25)
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Jeez.

Even if they had got a +ve rate they would have never made it back, that was on fire big time.

Nigh on 35 year old airframe.

Engine appears to have departed the wing post V1 and that was the end of that. Photos showing it on the ground.

Lots of video online - just pure luck that more have not been killed tbh as this was a well populated area it came down in.

AA191.... <shudders>

aeropilot

38,857 posts

246 months

Yesterday (08:30)
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It looks like the port engine has ripped right off, maybe taking the pylon with it, and rupturing the wing tank, at or just after V1.
That horrific truck dash cam footage showing it rolling into the ground at 90 deg bank looks like the port wing from engine outward had already gone and why it rolled left into the ground.


BrettMRC

5,237 posts

179 months

Yesterday (08:40)
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aeropilot said:
It looks like the port engine has ripped right off, maybe taking the pylon with it, and rupturing the wing tank, at or just after V1.
That horrific truck dash cam footage showing it rolling into the ground at 90 deg bank looks like the port wing from engine outward had already gone and why it rolled left into the ground.
I think the port wing was gone from the initial impact frown

gotoPzero

19,375 posts

208 months

Yesterday (08:41)
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BrettMRC said:
aeropilot said:
It looks like the port engine has ripped right off, maybe taking the pylon with it, and rupturing the wing tank, at or just after V1.
That horrific truck dash cam footage showing it rolling into the ground at 90 deg bank looks like the port wing from engine outward had already gone and why it rolled left into the ground.
I think the port wing was gone from the initial impact frown
Yeah looks like the initial impact with a large building caused the left wing to fold. It was already game over before this though, there was no saving that.

aeropilot

38,857 posts

246 months

Yesterday (08:49)
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gotoPzero said:
BrettMRC said:
aeropilot said:
It looks like the port engine has ripped right off, maybe taking the pylon with it, and rupturing the wing tank, at or just after V1.
That horrific truck dash cam footage showing it rolling into the ground at 90 deg bank looks like the port wing from engine outward had already gone and why it rolled left into the ground.
I think the port wing was gone from the initial impact frown
Yeah looks like the initial impact with a large building caused the left wing to fold. It was already game over before this though, there was no saving that.
Agreed, I've just seen the aerial photo of the scar in the roof of the warehouse, which was as you say, likely from the port wing being low from lost engine and thus ripping the wing off, and hence rolling the whole lot to port into the ground.......

Grim...... frown