Help me shake a Taycan obsession....
Discussion
So....
A while back I had a Taycan Sport Turismo GTS as a loan while my Cayman was getting serviced. I had hoped for a 911 but lucked out.
Within 50 meters, I was hooked on this thing! It seemed to drive a lot smaller than it felt, was agile and felt just so right. Now, we have an EV and the thing that always put me off the Taycan was the poor range. I mean the EV6 is a third of the cost and more range. It just didn't add up.
Now the J II Taycan ST has fixed that (4S 380 miles 424 urban) and has a range that is well over that of both the EV6 and the previous gen Taycan.
Been looking at late 2024 models, depending on spec, mileage etc you can get them circa £85k.
This would be to replace an EV6.
Tell me I'm nuts, man maths says that its taken a big chunk of depreciation. I'm going to try and organise another test drive.
Be interested in hearing your thoughts.
A while back I had a Taycan Sport Turismo GTS as a loan while my Cayman was getting serviced. I had hoped for a 911 but lucked out.
Within 50 meters, I was hooked on this thing! It seemed to drive a lot smaller than it felt, was agile and felt just so right. Now, we have an EV and the thing that always put me off the Taycan was the poor range. I mean the EV6 is a third of the cost and more range. It just didn't add up.
Now the J II Taycan ST has fixed that (4S 380 miles 424 urban) and has a range that is well over that of both the EV6 and the previous gen Taycan.
Been looking at late 2024 models, depending on spec, mileage etc you can get them circa £85k.
This would be to replace an EV6.
Tell me I'm nuts, man maths says that its taken a big chunk of depreciation. I'm going to try and organise another test drive.
Be interested in hearing your thoughts.
ChocolateFrog said:
Probably another 40k to come off over the next 5 years, atleast that's what I'd be calculating in my head.
Don't the OPCs also insist on silly things on the service schedule like pulling arch liners to check sunroof drains at significant expense.
I'd have to agree,Don't the OPCs also insist on silly things on the service schedule like pulling arch liners to check sunroof drains at significant expense.
There's loads of J I Taycan ST's for around 50k or less, I'd rather go approved used (especially for an EV) that way there's the "It don't work, fix please" option. Plus we've known a few people have their J I Taycans been at Porsche for months to address issues.
andrew-6xade said:
BIL has that exact model but in black
It's lost 50% of it's RRP in 12 months. He paid under list but he's still lost the best part of £40k in 12 months.
It's through the business, but he ain't getting out of it quickly.
I've got a mate putting one through the business and to be honest, brand new, that's the only way it makes sense. I figure as an approved used purchase, it's lost >35K already. It's lost 50% of it's RRP in 12 months. He paid under list but he's still lost the best part of £40k in 12 months.
It's through the business, but he ain't getting out of it quickly.
The thing is, I think as a driving machine, it's freakishly good (depending on spec).
ashenfie said:
Gen 2 Tycans are meant to be a lot better with range and charging. It's really down to being happy to loose a chunk of money. Definitely go via a Porsche dealer despite extra cost.
Yeah, I'm not keen on saving some cash and then finding the warranty wasn't worth the email it was sent on. I've had 2 I think when my car has been at the OPC and they did absolutely nothing for me, felt way to big and I was constantly recorrecting lines to not hit kerbs etc. Plus it just felt bland if I'm honest, probably a great daily but no replacement for an ICE vehicle.
All that being said if I was ever going to spend my hard earned on an EV I certainly wouldn't be buying one new, I'd let someone else - company director take the depreciation hit to get it down to a realistic value before I jumped in.
There have also been some horror stories regarding Taycan's, did they fix the software to allow them to fully charge now due to potential battery issues? Someone on here kerbed a wheel as I recall and for some reason took it to Porsche, I think the bill approached 20K to fix. It was a company car guy was a director and had swapped from a Range Rover for the BIK, decided to get shut and take the hit on another RR. I've seen another where the undertray had a dent in and if it's over sometime daft like 1-2mm they write off the battery = £30K to replace.
I also know someone who has had nothing but issues with the brakes on his, been in the dealers multiple times without a fix.
All that being said if I was ever going to spend my hard earned on an EV I certainly wouldn't be buying one new, I'd let someone else - company director take the depreciation hit to get it down to a realistic value before I jumped in.
There have also been some horror stories regarding Taycan's, did they fix the software to allow them to fully charge now due to potential battery issues? Someone on here kerbed a wheel as I recall and for some reason took it to Porsche, I think the bill approached 20K to fix. It was a company car guy was a director and had swapped from a Range Rover for the BIK, decided to get shut and take the hit on another RR. I've seen another where the undertray had a dent in and if it's over sometime daft like 1-2mm they write off the battery = £30K to replace.
I also know someone who has had nothing but issues with the brakes on his, been in the dealers multiple times without a fix.
Freakuk said:
There have also been some horror stories regarding Taycan's, did they fix the software to allow them to fully charge now due to potential battery issues? Someone on here kerbed a wheel as I recall and for some reason took it to Porsche, I think the bill approached 20K to fix. It was a company car guy was a director and had swapped from a Range Rover for the BIK, decided to get shut and take the hit on another RR. I've seen another where the undertray had a dent in and if it's over sometime daft like 1-2mm they write off the battery = £30K to replace.
Lots of horror stories abound indeed, but some of this is just Porsche taking the piss, as anyone with a Porsche would recognize.Freakuk said:
I've had 2 I think when my car has been at the OPC and they did absolutely nothing for me, felt way to big and I was constantly recorrecting lines to not hit kerbs etc. Plus it just felt bland if I'm honest, probably a great daily but no replacement for an ICE vehicle.
All that being said if I was ever going to spend my hard earned on an EV I certainly wouldn't be buying one new, I'd let someone else - company director take the depreciation hit to get it down to a realistic value before I jumped in.
There have also been some horror stories regarding Taycan's, did they fix the software to allow them to fully charge now due to potential battery issues? Someone on here kerbed a wheel as I recall and for some reason took it to Porsche, I think the bill approached 20K to fix. It was a company car guy was a director and had swapped from a Range Rover for the BIK, decided to get shut and take the hit on another RR. I've seen another where the undertray had a dent in and if it's over sometime daft like 1-2mm they write off the battery = £30K to replace.
I also know someone who has had nothing but issues with the brakes on his, been in the dealers multiple times without a fix.
I know a lot of issues were resolved with J II, it was the other half that has colleagues at work that have had issue with J I Taycan's and she has zero interest in that based on the long turn arounds. All that being said if I was ever going to spend my hard earned on an EV I certainly wouldn't be buying one new, I'd let someone else - company director take the depreciation hit to get it down to a realistic value before I jumped in.
There have also been some horror stories regarding Taycan's, did they fix the software to allow them to fully charge now due to potential battery issues? Someone on here kerbed a wheel as I recall and for some reason took it to Porsche, I think the bill approached 20K to fix. It was a company car guy was a director and had swapped from a Range Rover for the BIK, decided to get shut and take the hit on another RR. I've seen another where the undertray had a dent in and if it's over sometime daft like 1-2mm they write off the battery = £30K to replace.
I also know someone who has had nothing but issues with the brakes on his, been in the dealers multiple times without a fix.
J II seems so far issue free (Based on forums etc)
Vs the Kia you’ll need a good chunk aside for servicing and a pot for repairs to silly things
A supplier at work bought one, 2 weeks later the windscreen cracked and he was told he missed the fine print for windscreen cover, the taycan was in an exceptions list as the screen was something like £1800.
Had to stump it up himself
A supplier at work bought one, 2 weeks later the windscreen cracked and he was told he missed the fine print for windscreen cover, the taycan was in an exceptions list as the screen was something like £1800.
Had to stump it up himself
andburg said:
Vs the Kia you ll need a good chunk aside for servicing and a pot for repairs to silly things
A supplier at work bought one, 2 weeks later the windscreen cracked and he was told he missed the fine print for windscreen cover, the taycan was in an exceptions list as the screen was something like £1800.
Had to stump it up himself
Oof!A supplier at work bought one, 2 weeks later the windscreen cracked and he was told he missed the fine print for windscreen cover, the taycan was in an exceptions list as the screen was something like £1800.
Had to stump it up himself
samoht said:
It feels like the ultimate daily driver.
The thing is, it's a lot of money now, and it'll be worth a lot less in three years time (maybe half?). So it would be an expensive luxury to pay the depreciation on. But if you're ok with that, then I can't think of a reason not to.
OK, so stick with me...The thing is, it's a lot of money now, and it'll be worth a lot less in three years time (maybe half?). So it would be an expensive luxury to pay the depreciation on. But if you're ok with that, then I can't think of a reason not to.
Earlier in the year I tried a 911. I was thinking of scratching that 911 itch....
Now I was hoping to try a 992.2 S but they hadn't made it to OPC's yet and the 992.2 GTS was already on loan but we have the previous gen 911 S. Ok lets go.
Sadly I was left really underwhelmed, it was only 50bhp up on the Cayman but weigh's that bit more and the weight was slung out the back. Bigger shock, the Taycan actually felt exciting, better resolved and totally exceeded my expectations. Maybe if it had been a GT3 it would have been a different story and taken me back to when I first tried a 911 (compared to a 1.6 GTi this thing was a monster circa 1992) sadly 2025 didn't relive that moment for me and my 911 journey came to an abrupt halt.
Cayman tics too many boxes.
So for me, if I can scrape up the funds for next summer, I'd look at a year old one and have my cake and eat it. I'd just have to accept that after 3 years it won't be worth much more than £55k - £60k.
For me (The GTS), it was more exciting to drive. I think the J II 4S is closer to the J I GTS in performance terms and I'm sure decent Geo would sort out the rest
ChocolateFrog said:
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Don't the OPCs also insist on silly things on the service schedule like pulling arch liners to check sunroof drains at significant expense.
No.Don't the OPCs also insist on silly things on the service schedule like pulling arch liners to check sunroof drains at significant expense.
andburg said:
Vs the Kia you ll need a good chunk aside for servicing and a pot for repairs to silly things
A supplier at work bought one, 2 weeks later the windscreen cracked and he was told he missed the fine print for windscreen cover, the taycan was in an exceptions list as the screen was something like £1800.
Had to stump it up himself
That's hardly the car's fault A supplier at work bought one, 2 weeks later the windscreen cracked and he was told he missed the fine print for windscreen cover, the taycan was in an exceptions list as the screen was something like £1800.
Had to stump it up himself
T1berious said:
OK, so stick with me...
Earlier in the year I tried a 911. I was thinking of scratching that 911 itch....
Now I was hoping to try a 992.2 S but they hadn't made it to OPC's yet and the 992.2 GTS was already on loan but we have the previous gen 911 S. Ok lets go.
Sadly I was left really underwhelmed, it was only 50bhp up on the Cayman but weigh's that bit more and the weight was slung out the back. Bigger shock, the Taycan actually felt exciting, better resolved and totally exceeded my expectations. Maybe if it had been a GT3 it would have been a different story and taken me back to when I first tried a 911 (compared to a 1.6 GTi this thing was a monster circa 1992) sadly 2025 didn't relive that moment for me and my 911 journey came to an abrupt halt.
Cayman tics too many boxes.
So for me, if I can scrape up the funds for next summer, I'd look at a year old one and have my cake and eat it. I'd just have to accept that after 3 years it won't be worth much more than £55k - £60k.
For me (The GTS), it was more exciting to drive. I think the J II 4S is closer to the J I GTS in performance terms and I'm sure decent Geo would sort out the rest
I had a 997.2 4S when I bought my Taycan. Sold it. Wasn't needed. Nice car, but the goto was always the Taycan. I borrowed a 992 when the car was in for service. Nowhere near as much character as my old 997 and simply felt like it was from the stone age and trying too hard.Earlier in the year I tried a 911. I was thinking of scratching that 911 itch....
Now I was hoping to try a 992.2 S but they hadn't made it to OPC's yet and the 992.2 GTS was already on loan but we have the previous gen 911 S. Ok lets go.
Sadly I was left really underwhelmed, it was only 50bhp up on the Cayman but weigh's that bit more and the weight was slung out the back. Bigger shock, the Taycan actually felt exciting, better resolved and totally exceeded my expectations. Maybe if it had been a GT3 it would have been a different story and taken me back to when I first tried a 911 (compared to a 1.6 GTi this thing was a monster circa 1992) sadly 2025 didn't relive that moment for me and my 911 journey came to an abrupt halt.
Cayman tics too many boxes.
So for me, if I can scrape up the funds for next summer, I'd look at a year old one and have my cake and eat it. I'd just have to accept that after 3 years it won't be worth much more than £55k - £60k.
For me (The GTS), it was more exciting to drive. I think the J II 4S is closer to the J I GTS in performance terms and I'm sure decent Geo would sort out the rest
J1.2 GTS cars are starting to come down nicely.
You have to be careful with spec on Taycans. Cheaped out on options makes them feel...cheap. So if going for a 4S you really need to consider interior options carefully.
Q : do you really need more range? How frequently do you do more than 180-200 miles in one hit and not be able to stop for 15mins?
Having had my J1.1 GTS ST for over 2yrs, I don't see me changing it for some time. Ticks all the boxes.
Murph7355 said:
Q : do you really need more range? How frequently do you do more than 180-200 miles in one hit and not be able to stop for 15mins?
Tbf the OP owns an EV now, so he's probably aware of travelling with it.My main issue with travelling with a sub 350km car (which the earlier 80kwh cars are, even before degradation) is that the 20-80% rule gives you just 200km between stops.
Fine if you sometimes want to do 500km, very tedious if you do multiple 1000+ km trips in a year.
On the other hand, the charging network has expanded and charging at ~200kw is a lot more realistic these days.
Edited by ZesPak on Thursday 6th November 07:33
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