3p per mile road pricing on EV's
Discussion
"EV drivers could face new tax in Budget"
Seeing how loads of towns and cities don't have ULEZ/CAZ cameras.
I don't see how they can charge mileage on cars before their 1st MOT when 3 years old.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0mxgzpj1dvo
Seeing how loads of towns and cities don't have ULEZ/CAZ cameras.
I don't see how they can charge mileage on cars before their 1st MOT when 3 years old.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0mxgzpj1dvo
I read elsewhere that it's on drivers to submit an estimation. If you're under it, it's rolled over into next year.
Not sure how they check it without MOTs if they choose to follow it up.
Plug in hybrids get hit with it too. Not sure I'd be too impressed paying it on my fossil fuely miles. I'm already paying per mile for that.
Not sure how they check it without MOTs if they choose to follow it up.
Plug in hybrids get hit with it too. Not sure I'd be too impressed paying it on my fossil fuely miles. I'm already paying per mile for that.
I guess it’s inevitable that more tax is coming.
My wife has a small ev, it’s so cheap to run that we use it for everything within 80 miles of home which is 99% of trips
My car barely gets used apart from the odd work trip and holidays
They are down a massive amount on my tax contribution by fuel on petrol
What they need to figure out is how to charge a mileage rate
My folks spend a lot of time in Europe in their ev. Probably doing 10 times more mileage there than the uk
My wife has a small ev, it’s so cheap to run that we use it for everything within 80 miles of home which is 99% of trips
My car barely gets used apart from the odd work trip and holidays
They are down a massive amount on my tax contribution by fuel on petrol
What they need to figure out is how to charge a mileage rate
My folks spend a lot of time in Europe in their ev. Probably doing 10 times more mileage there than the uk
They would need to monitor in real time (similar to the smart power/water meters fitted to houses) otherwise people will simply use defeat devices or get the mileage rolled back before MOT.
Paying over £1k a year in VED for doing less than 3k miles a year I'd welcome pay per mile pricing, don't see why I should be subsidising people doing 10x the mileage and paying £100 a year in VED for their diesel or EV.
Paying over £1k a year in VED for doing less than 3k miles a year I'd welcome pay per mile pricing, don't see why I should be subsidising people doing 10x the mileage and paying £100 a year in VED for their diesel or EV.
markh1973 said:
Are they going to charge me for the distance I travel on our road which is owned by the residents.
I know the answer to that - it will be the same as the fact that we pay for our own streetlights as well as the council tax for streetlighting.
Everyone pays for all the street lighting because everyone has access to all the streets that are lit, including you, unless you never leave your private road.I know the answer to that - it will be the same as the fact that we pay for our own streetlights as well as the council tax for streetlighting.
markh1973 said:
Are they going to charge me for the distance I travel on our road which is owned by the residents.
I know the answer to that - it will be the same as the fact that we pay for our own streetlights as well as the council tax for streetlighting.
Well yeah, but presumably your council tax covers all of the other streetlighting you use. The double count must be so truly, vanishingly small as to be of no material consequence whatsoever.I know the answer to that - it will be the same as the fact that we pay for our own streetlights as well as the council tax for streetlighting.
Sheets Tabuer said:
Quite frankly if EV drivers thought they weren't going to come after you once numbers got sufficient they were living in cloud cuckoo land.
I've always thought that was part of the push for smart meters so they'd know when you're charging your car & to charge a higher rate for that eventually. (Removes tin foil hat)The New Zealand Labour Government looked at this tax-by-the-mile and dropped the proposal due to it's social implications.
What they realised was that generally wealthier people live in expensive inner cities and don't commute as far, while lower income people and families live in the outer suburbs where housing is cheaper so commute further. So it would effectively end up as a tax disproportionately on the poor and families which made it unpalatable.
What they realised was that generally wealthier people live in expensive inner cities and don't commute as far, while lower income people and families live in the outer suburbs where housing is cheaper so commute further. So it would effectively end up as a tax disproportionately on the poor and families which made it unpalatable.
They just introduced VED and the ECS to EV’s I doubt they have even counted that extra income yet.
Another hare brained illiterate scheme, straight out of the 6th form debating society.
You’ve got to wonder why so much kite flying is being done at this late stage so close to the budget. Ill prepared perhaps…
Another hare brained illiterate scheme, straight out of the 6th form debating society.
You’ve got to wonder why so much kite flying is being done at this late stage so close to the budget. Ill prepared perhaps…
untakenname said:
They would need to monitor in real time (similar to the smart power/water meters fitted to houses) otherwise people will simply use defeat devices or get the mileage rolled back before MOT.
Paying over £1k a year in VED for doing less than 3k miles a year I'd welcome pay per mile pricing, don't see why I should be subsidising people doing 10x the mileage and paying £100 a year in VED for their diesel or EV.
If this happens you can guarantee that universal road pricing will be next. This proposal is a typical New Labour effort that assumes everyone is utterly honest and compliant and no-one is going to clock their car or get rid of it before an MoT etc. To do it properly would require full tracking of every vehicle (which is probably what they want) and, of course, once you have full tracking you can then introduce time-based pricing, dressed up as some form of “smart congestion management” or similar bullsPaying over £1k a year in VED for doing less than 3k miles a year I'd welcome pay per mile pricing, don't see why I should be subsidising people doing 10x the mileage and paying £100 a year in VED for their diesel or EV.
t.Either way, it fits with the cancellation of road projects etc under the last Labour government.
Now where’s the bacofoil, my head is cold.
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