How to legally rewind odometer
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Hi all,
My mr2 turbo was imported from Japan in 2006 and I have a purchase receipt from the first uk owner stating 75,000 km on the clock. The first MOT however had recorded the millage at 75,000 miles.
It failed an MOT April 2008 at 80,000km. Then passed a month later at 80,000 miles! From there on, it’s recorded as miles every year except 2014 where it was KM again…
The odometer is recording miles now (took it for a drive and it ticks up by one every mile). But I’m not sure when this conversion took place and as my paperwork is contradicting the MOT (km vs miles) for its first MOT, is there anyway of finding out what the true millage is for this car?
Maybe the conversion was done in 2008 and the clock not rolled back in which case my odometer is reading 32,000 miles high from that point onwards.
Is it a case of I will never know the true millage? Or is there a way I can find out? Any ideas?
Thanks
My mr2 turbo was imported from Japan in 2006 and I have a purchase receipt from the first uk owner stating 75,000 km on the clock. The first MOT however had recorded the millage at 75,000 miles.
It failed an MOT April 2008 at 80,000km. Then passed a month later at 80,000 miles! From there on, it’s recorded as miles every year except 2014 where it was KM again…
The odometer is recording miles now (took it for a drive and it ticks up by one every mile). But I’m not sure when this conversion took place and as my paperwork is contradicting the MOT (km vs miles) for its first MOT, is there anyway of finding out what the true millage is for this car?
Maybe the conversion was done in 2008 and the clock not rolled back in which case my odometer is reading 32,000 miles high from that point onwards.
Is it a case of I will never know the true millage? Or is there a way I can find out? Any ideas?
Thanks
tommy10101 said:
Hi all,
My mr2 turbo was imported from Japan in 2006 and I have a purchase receipt from the first uk owner stating 75,000 km on the clock. The first MOT however had recorded the millage at 75,000 miles.
It failed an MOT April 2008 at 80,000km. Then passed a month later at 80,000 miles! From there on, it s recorded as miles every year except 2014 where it was KM again
The odometer is recording miles now (took it for a drive and it ticks up by one every mile). But I m not sure when this conversion took place and as my paperwork is contradicting the MOT (km vs miles) for its first MOT, is there anyway of finding out what the true millage is for this car?
Maybe the conversion was done in 2008 and the clock not rolled back in which case my odometer is reading 32,000 miles high from that point onwards.
Is it a case of I will never know the true millage? Or is there a way I can find out? Any ideas?
Thanks
So you want to rewind it to what you think it possibly should be based on assumptions of when it was recording miles or Kms?My mr2 turbo was imported from Japan in 2006 and I have a purchase receipt from the first uk owner stating 75,000 km on the clock. The first MOT however had recorded the millage at 75,000 miles.
It failed an MOT April 2008 at 80,000km. Then passed a month later at 80,000 miles! From there on, it s recorded as miles every year except 2014 where it was KM again
The odometer is recording miles now (took it for a drive and it ticks up by one every mile). But I m not sure when this conversion took place and as my paperwork is contradicting the MOT (km vs miles) for its first MOT, is there anyway of finding out what the true millage is for this car?
Maybe the conversion was done in 2008 and the clock not rolled back in which case my odometer is reading 32,000 miles high from that point onwards.
Is it a case of I will never know the true millage? Or is there a way I can find out? Any ideas?
Thanks
The MOT history will look dead suspicious of it suddenly shows a lower number than previously. If you want to sell it at anytime in the future, probably best to keep it honest, and sell on condition rather than milage.
I am trying to rewind it to show the accurate millage of the car.
All JDM imports will come over reading kilometres, so I think it’s a mistake that the first MOT recorded miles and then all the others were based off that.
I am trying to be honest by getting it corrected to show the actual millage
I vaguely heard there was a legal way to do this which would then give me all the required paperwork which could be explained if I ever sell it.
Bit annoying as I could have a 70,000 mile car rather than 100,000 and it was just down to the MOT testers writing down the wrong units….
All JDM imports will come over reading kilometres, so I think it’s a mistake that the first MOT recorded miles and then all the others were based off that.
I am trying to be honest by getting it corrected to show the actual millage
I vaguely heard there was a legal way to do this which would then give me all the required paperwork which could be explained if I ever sell it.
Bit annoying as I could have a 70,000 mile car rather than 100,000 and it was just down to the MOT testers writing down the wrong units….
If anyone knows how to do this for my EV, sorry my friend's EV, do share ;-)
More seriously; I imported a 180SX. Before getting it on the road I installed a chip which converted so it would rack up in miles from that point on. I didn't roll back the odo.
I think it's reasonable in this case to subtract 3/8ths of the import mileage, in your case 28k miles. So if your car has 100k on the clock, you could advertise it as a 72k mile car, and show the buyer the receipt for import of 75k kms in 2006, and explain that it gained 28k when the odo was converted on import.
I wouldn't try and fiddle with the odo, I think it is cleaner and simpler to let it just keep counting upwards as it's designed to do, and if selling the car, explain there's a fixed offset.
Anyone buying an MR2 Turbo is inherently buying an import so should understand this. And at that age, mileage is far less important to value than regular good maintenance and replacement of wearable parts, and how rusty it is (!)
Yeh that is the key question I think.
When its converted to miles after import, I assume they roll the odometer back also?
The 75,000 kilometres on the purchase receipt and the 75,000 miles on its first MOT contradicting is the confusing bit.
I feel like 75,000 kilometers for 12 years in Japan for a car like this seems more likely rather than miles but who knows.
Guess I need to contact the import company but checked their name and the companies been dissolved.
When its converted to miles after import, I assume they roll the odometer back also?
The 75,000 kilometres on the purchase receipt and the 75,000 miles on its first MOT contradicting is the confusing bit.
I feel like 75,000 kilometers for 12 years in Japan for a car like this seems more likely rather than miles but who knows.
Guess I need to contact the import company but checked their name and the companies been dissolved.
samoht said:
If anyone knows how to do this for my EV, sorry my friend's EV, do share ;-)
More seriously; I imported a 180SX. Before getting it on the road I installed a chip which converted so it would rack up in miles from that point on. I didn't roll back the odo.
I think it's reasonable in this case to subtract 3/8ths of the import mileage, in your case 28k miles. So if your car has 100k on the clock, you could advertise it as a 72k mile car, and show the buyer the receipt for import of 75k kms in 2006, and explain that it gained 28k when the odo was converted on import.
I wouldn't try and fiddle with the odo, I think it is cleaner and simpler to let it just keep counting upwards as it's designed to do, and if selling the car, explain there's a fixed offset.
Anyone buying an MR2 Turbo is inherently buying an import so should understand this. And at that age, mileage is far less important to value than regular good maintenance and replacement of wearable parts, and how rusty it is (!)
Yeh that’s a good point I guess, but I did hear there is a legal way to rewind the clock with the proper paperwork,More seriously; I imported a 180SX. Before getting it on the road I installed a chip which converted so it would rack up in miles from that point on. I didn't roll back the odo.
I think it's reasonable in this case to subtract 3/8ths of the import mileage, in your case 28k miles. So if your car has 100k on the clock, you could advertise it as a 72k mile car, and show the buyer the receipt for import of 75k kms in 2006, and explain that it gained 28k when the odo was converted on import.
I wouldn't try and fiddle with the odo, I think it is cleaner and simpler to let it just keep counting upwards as it's designed to do, and if selling the car, explain there's a fixed offset.
Anyone buying an MR2 Turbo is inherently buying an import so should understand this. And at that age, mileage is far less important to value than regular good maintenance and replacement of wearable parts, and how rusty it is (!)
Just a shame they couldn’t get their units right!
I completely get the frustration with the KMs showing as miles and can see why you'd want to try and rectify it but I don't think it's worth pursuing. It's a very specific car - not something you'd PX at a normal dealership and not something a bunch of randoms would come to buy and then get put off by when seeing the discrepancy.
It's a car that will only be bought by an enthusiast and the person looking to buy an old Japanese car is almost certainly aware that these discrepancies occur and that buying on condition is the priority.
It's a car that will only be bought by an enthusiast and the person looking to buy an old Japanese car is almost certainly aware that these discrepancies occur and that buying on condition is the priority.
Yeh I think I agree it s not worth it actually and it would look dodgy rolling the clock back. And agreed that buyers of this car would probably understand.
Maybe thinking of selling next year but we will see. Will cross the bridge when I come to it and explain the discrepancy to the buyers.
Thanks for the replies all
Maybe thinking of selling next year but we will see. Will cross the bridge when I come to it and explain the discrepancy to the buyers.
Thanks for the replies all
My Eunos simply has a document from the importer stating the mileage on import, hence the number which is deducted from the odometer to reveal the true mileage.
Basically they don’t wind the odometer back at import to reflect miles.
My car indicates 103k miles, but is actually just 75k miles
All they have done is recalibrate the unit to read in miles per hour and stuck on a mph sticker.
Basically they don’t wind the odometer back at import to reflect miles.
My car indicates 103k miles, but is actually just 75k miles
All they have done is recalibrate the unit to read in miles per hour and stuck on a mph sticker.
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