Cardiff Police Took Two Days to Find Crash Car - Misconduct?

[The Mad Monk]

Cardiff police took almost 48 hours to find a car in which three people had died.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2lpw1rj924o

[E-bmw]

The Mad Monk said:

Cardiff police took almost 48 hours to find a car in which three people had died.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2lpw1rj924o

Probably because they were only doing 20 MPH.

[Peterpetrole]

Have you never lost something around the house? If you knew where it was you'd have found it.

[Sebring440]

Peterpetrole said:

Have you never lost something around the house? If you knew where it was you'd have found it.

Agree with this. I've lost my council gym membership contract. Searched everywhere.

[Tommo87]

If it was that easy to find, then someone else would have found it.

This smacks of someone smelling a payout if they can twist a few facts.

[trickywoo]

Two survivors were trapped in the wreckage for 48hrs.

If they were conscious that can’t have been much fun.

[E-bmw]

Peterpetrole said:

Have you never lost something around the house? If you knew where it was you'd have found it.

You will find it in the last place you look................ Because you then stop looking.

[Lo-Fi]

Sebring440 said:

Peterpetrole said:

Have you never lost something around the house? If you knew where it was you'd have found it.

Agree with this. I've lost my council gym membership contract. Searched everywhere.

[Decky_Q]

Was the problem not that they were off their faces on laughing gas, with no licence or insurance, driving a 'pool' car and went straight on at a roundabout and ended up disappearing into the undergrowth leaving no skid or tyre marks for the cops to follow cause the driver didn't even try to take any evasive action?

No witnesses until the car was found and nothing appeared out of the ordinary along the suspected route.

[journeymanpro]

Why is it up to the police to find it anyway?

[butchstewie]

I read it as the problem was that the response simply wasn't what you might have reasonably expected if you contacted the Police to say five people had disappeared off the face of the earth.

[aterribleusername]

I live locally and drive past that crash site twice in the time they were in there. There was nothing at all to suggest that there had been any sort of incident, not to me or any of the hundreds of others that drive past it either. The police didn't go looking for them as they were all adults with none of them classed as vulnerable and the usual 72 hours had not passed. The driver and passengers were all either drunk or in drugs plus the driver was speeding and had been seen driving in an erratic manner beforehand. The crashed car was buried in deep overgrowth in a place where no-one ever goes. It was and is nothing more than a load of people making poor life choices and paying for the consequences. I am sure loads of us at that age have disappeared from r a few days with friends on adventures and not been in touch with others with no issues so people going 'off-grid' for a few days is not something the police should deal with unless there are other factors at play like a mental health issue or not turning up to work.

I initially had sympathy for the families involved but their actions and "me-me-me" attitude has destroyed all of that and a lot of locals think the same too. There has been a permanent "shrine" there with banners and pictures ever since that tragic day and it is not what you would call 'respectful'. The police have bent over backwards to accommodate the families' concerns since they were found but it absolutely smacks of them not accepting that fully grown adults made poor choices and paid the ultimate price. They're looking for a scapegoat, a witch hunt and it is a poor reflection on them as a result.

[XCP]

Still, gives the IOPC something to do...

[The Mad Monk]

aterribleusername said:

It was and is nothing more than a load of people making poor life choices and paying for the consequences. I am sure loads of us at that age have disappeared from r a few days with friends on adventures and not been in touch with others with no issues so people going 'off-grid' for a few days is not something the police should deal with unless there are other factors at play like a mental health issue or not turning up to work.

That is about right.

Five young adults, two men and three women go out for the evening on Saturday and don't come home.

So what?

Have you never done that?

[Quattr04.]

Tommo87 said:

If it was that easy to find, then someone else would have found it.

This smacks of someone smelling a payout if they can twist a few facts.

The car was sticking out a hedge on a very very busy roundabout, a member of the public saw it from their car, so not exactly hidden

[butchstewie]

The Mad Monk said:

That is about right.

Five young adults, two men and three women go out for the evening on Saturday and don't come home.

So what?

Have you never done that?

I really don't know if that's satire or serious.

I do think some of the reaction on this thread might be because of how these five people look and sound.

If this was a bunch of middle class home county kids and dare I say the kids of some of you on this thread I'm not sure you'd all be going "yeah standard procedure" if they simply disappeared off the face of the earth.

Whatever standard procedure is I know I'd expect better if it was my family.

[Tommo87]

aterribleusername said:

I They're looking for a scapegoat, a witch hunt and it is a poor reflection on them as a result.

That final line sums it up for me.

It was a search for a bunch of missing adults and nobody knew that they had crashed until much later.

[Tommo87]

Quattr04. said:

The car was sticking out a hedge on a very very busy roundabout, a member of the public saw it from their car, so not exactly hidden

Where are you getting your information that it was easy to see/ not hidden?


Three posts above yours from someone who is a local says there was nothing to suggest a crash.

aterribleusername said:

I live locally and drive past that crash site twice in the time they were in there. There was nothing at all to suggest that there had been any sort of incident, not to me or any of the hundreds of others that drive past it either. The police didn't go looking for them as they were all adults with none of them classed as vulnerable and the usual 72 hours had not passed. The driver and passengers were all either drunk or in drugs plus the driver was speeding and had been seen driving in an erratic manner beforehand. The crashed car was buried in deep overgrowth in a place where no-one ever goes. It was and is nothing more than a load of people making poor life choices and paying for the consequences. I am sure loads of us at that age have disappeared from r a few days with friends on adventures and not been in touch with others with no issues so people going 'off-grid' for a few days is not something the police should deal with unless there are other factors at play like a mental health issue or not turning up to work.

I initially had sympathy for the families involved but their actions and "me-me-me" attitude has destroyed all of that and a lot of locals think the same too. There has been a permanent "shrine" there with banners and pictures ever since that tragic day and it is not what you would call 'respectful'. The police have bent over backwards to accommodate the families' concerns since they were found but it absolutely smacks of them not accepting that fully grown adults made poor choices and paid the ultimate price. They're looking for a scapegoat, a witch hunt and it is a poor reflection on them as a result.

[Nibbles_bits]

So frustrating -

A - actions weren't completed. These actions wouldn't have led to them being located anyway.

B - they lied about completing actions when they hadn't. These actions wouldn't have led to the being located anyway.

[E-bmw]

XCP said:

Still, gives the IOPC something to do...

That we the tax-payer are paying for don't forget.