Possible safeguarding issue
Possible safeguarding issue
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pheasant

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158 posts

125 months

Saturday
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Opinion please on a possible safeguarding issue that I may be completely unjustifiably raising.

We have a holiday cottage that these days we only visit 6 times a year. About 4 months ago a mid 80's lady moved into the rented cottage next door. A very kind lady.

However she has been befriended by a mid 30's man and we are somewhat concerned about his intentions. He has taken to staying a few days a week and we believe (unjustifiably again) she has lent him money for a business. He is very kind - the other day he bought her a bar of chocolate, but it was on her credit card.

She has family within 30 miles but they have not visited her so far although her son is coming next week after we leave. She says she is only intending to rent for a year until she finds somewhere to buy.

Only been down a couple of days this visit, and only exchanged a hello with him, so can form no opinion. The also elderly lady on our other side also shares our concerns.

Advice please

Wish

1,683 posts

268 months

Saturday
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Report to police … if she’s 80’s and has funds to buy a house she’s a clear target.

Gaz Said

7 posts

9 months

Saturday
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Possible cuckooing and financial abuse - report by calling 101. Many councils also have a portal for reporting cuckooing, so complete that to if possible.

Derek Smith

48,207 posts

267 months

Saturday
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I was safeguarding officer for my rugby club. I put a cause for concern for an adult to local social services and they took it seriously and resolved the issue quite promptly. How, I'm not sure as they gave me no details but the particular point I raised did not reoccur.

Look at it this way: how will you feel if your suspicions was well-founded and, when she becomes destitute, you wonder why you did nothing. On the other hand, say you do report it, and he gets a clean bill of health, you can still feel go about the result and yourself.

texaxile

3,561 posts

169 months

Saturday
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Is there any way you can contact the family to convey your, and the other person's concerns?.

Along with the suggestions here, I'd do my best to ensure the family are made aware of what you have done and what you have observed.

Keep us updated.

Edited by texaxile on Saturday 8th November 22:30

pheasant

Original Poster:

158 posts

125 months

Saturday
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Apparently we should still be here when son arrives early next week before we go home, will keep a discreet eye on things till then and 'formally' introduce ourselves to him.

Simpo Two

90,137 posts

284 months

Saturday
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pheasant said:
About 4 months ago a mid 80's lady moved into the rented cottage next door... She has family within 30 miles but they have not visited her so far although her son is coming next week after we leave.
Pretty poor show by her family if you ask me.

Did the old lady tell you about the befriending, chocolate bars, business loan etc? How do you know the man isn't family?

pheasant

Original Poster:

158 posts

125 months

Saturday
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Lady has opened up a little to my wife and more so the elderly lady on other side, she is a lovely lady but rather naive. We are staying on an extra day or so to meet her son and will take it from there.
No, he is definitely not family, but he could be a prince !

fourstardan

5,912 posts

163 months

Saturday
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How on earth do you know all this.

Or are you using a glass against the wall.

pheasant

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158 posts

125 months

Saturday
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Glass wouldn't help, wall are 3 feet thick down here in Devon

whimsical ninja

242 posts

46 months

Saturday
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Sounds like your Spidey senses are spot on as described. Certainly worthy of doing something, and good on you for top neighbourliness.

You'd be absolutely justified in calling the police as things stand, but it might be worth getting in touch with her family to begin with - they may tell you there's an innocent explanation (he's a nephew or old friend). But if you're still not happy or feeling that the family aren't taking you seriously then definitely calling the police is the way to go - they'll take it seriously and there are many different routes they could go down. Ultimately they and/or social services would be likely to engage with family and try to encourage them to take more responsibility, so you might as well cut out the middle man.

Sorry didn't read 2104 post. Sounds good.

Edited by whimsical ninja on Saturday 8th November 22:32

GasEngineer

1,729 posts

81 months

Yesterday (07:07)
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How did the man befriend her in the first place? Where did he come from?

fourstardan

5,912 posts

163 months

Yesterday (07:45)
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80 is not exactly young now days. I play golf with 80 year olds. (And only skive free drinks)

If she's in that much of an incapacity then maybe she shouldn't be living alone in the first place.

I don't think what you think OP is right, it's just very interesting now days to see what we all care about.


loskie

6,541 posts

139 months

Yesterday (08:57)
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Having a lasting POA for my 97 yr old aunt I find the OPs suspicions entirely justified.

Adult Social services will have a service where you can report your concerns to

https://www.devonsafeguardingadultspartnership.org...

Wacky Racer

40,188 posts

266 months

Yesterday (09:03)
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pheasant said:
He is very kind - the other day he bought her a bar of chocolate, but it was on her credit card.

Advice please
Is this a joke?

ExBoringVolvoDriver

10,775 posts

62 months

Yesterday (09:03)
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pheasant said:
Lady has opened up a little to my wife and more so the elderly lady on other side, she is a lovely lady but rather naive. We are staying on an extra day or so to meet her son and will take it from there.
No, he is definitely not family, but he could be a prince !
This makes sense along with reporting to the local social services as mentioned above.

loskie

6,541 posts

139 months

Yesterday (09:19)
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next thing he'll appear in her will. Happens quite a lot.

whimsical ninja

242 posts

46 months

Yesterday (09:50)
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fourstardan said:
80 is not exactly young now days. I play golf with 80 year olds. (And only skive free drinks)

If she's in that much of an incapacity then maybe she shouldn't be living alone in the first place.

I don't think what you think OP is right, it's just very interesting now days to see what we all care about.
I didn't realise keeping an eye out for our neighbours was a particularly modern trend

Greendubber

14,655 posts

222 months

Yesterday (09:54)
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OP,

Well done for caring, speak with the family and see how they respond. Let them know the suggestion of speaking with Social Services and maybe suggest an email to the local neighbourhood policing team.


Actual

1,465 posts

125 months

Yesterday (10:53)
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loskie said:
next thing he'll appear in her will. Happens quite a lot.
A Will won't be needed if they get married.

(My dad went bat st crazy and wanted to marry his married cleaner.)