RE: Remarkable BMW M3 CSL for sale
RE: Remarkable BMW M3 CSL for sale
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Remarkable BMW M3 CSL for sale

Ultimate E46 caused shockwaves at £60,000 new; now you can add another £100,000 to that figure...


There’s a belief that I share, along with fellow PH contributor Stephen Dobie, that 2003 represented the absolute pinnacle of fast cars. And not just because the Compact is on an '03 plate. For those 12 months or so, probably extending a bit into 2004 to scoop up a few extra gems, just about every manufacturer at every price point delivered something incredible. Not just cars that were incredible for the early 21st century, either, but models that have stood the test of time as brilliant performance machines or totally new dawns for this maker. Sometimes both. 

It’s hard to know where to start. The first GT3 RS, the 360 Challenge Stradale, the first Bentley Continental GT, the Aston DB9, the Nissan 350Z, the Mazda RX-8, the Rolls-Royce Phantom, the Ford GT, the Clio V6 255, the Smart Roadster… it goes on and on, before even thinking about the super exotics. All arrived at a time when technology, safety and performance intersected almost perfectly, offering up cars that’ll still feel fantastic today (in good condition) while delivering some old school interaction as well. 

Then, of course, there’s the M3 CSL, the best version of everyone’s favourite 3 Series. It was notable even in an extraordinary year for a few things. The first being that BMW had even made such a thing, 2003 being decades since the Coupe Sport Lightweight badge was used; second, was just how extreme it was, using such newfangled tech as a carbon roof on a 3 Series Coupe. Third was the sound, the carbon airbox for the S54 3.2 (that contributed to the 17hp power gain, to 360hp) making for a delightfully demonic intake honk adored the world over. Finally, the price was unavoidably significant, at £58,455 against a standard M3’s £39,735. Even in a pre-social media world, the CSL felt like the only car being talked about. Not least given some suggested it wasn’t really worth £20k more than standard… 

Nevertheless, this E46 has always clung onto its very special status like its original Pilot Sport Cups did to dry tarmac. Subsequent M3s retired the nat-asp straight-six, never looked quite as good and never resurrected the badge. There were alternative takes on the lightweight M car, though the M3 CSL moniker remained unsullied by any other association. Indeed, it only made a return for the 3.0 CSL, at £750,000 or whatever. Having the CSL prior to that looked smart. 

As BMWs, and M cars in particular, became more complex, so the relative simplicity of the old days appealed more. Especially when it looked like this. It’s a phenomenon that’s affected all car makers, it just seems to be more keenly felt (or more loudly vocalised) on planet BMW. So E46s have been on the rise for a while, with CSLs still at the top of the tree; even in 2015 they were up to £70k for a ‘no-options’ car, having bottomed out at less than half that, so it’s hardly a recent phenomenon. And think what’s happened to BMW in the 10 years since then…

So this one’s another £100,000 on top. £169,950 to be precise, the most expensive M3 CSL we’ve ever seen. Though not by much, it feels worth saying. Predictably, of course, it’s sensational, just 8,000 miles old and having been with its current owner since these cars could be bought (admittedly not in this condition) for less than £40,000. Otherwise known as 2013.

Understandably, they’ve used it sparingly since then, with fewer than 2,000 miles added since that year’s MOT and this summer’s one. Meaning the CSL looks just as good as it would have then, if not better, time only further highlighting the brilliance of the visual upgrades: the wheels, the ducktail, the carbon made a great looking coupe even better - you wouldn’t change a thing. 

So while this probably isn’t the M3 CSL to go exploring the Isle of Man with in a Top Gear tribute, it would fit into a collection of BMW’s greatest hits just perfectly. Then rolled out for a pull through third gear every now and then, a reminder of why the CSL (and 2003) is still loved so much. 


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rassi

Original Poster:

2,508 posts

270 months

No doubt a very special car but £170.000 special?

And the SMG is still crap, a manual conversion would make it much better, so an M3 CS would be my choice

Dog Biscuit

1,192 posts

16 months

The SMG suits the CSL prefectly imho - that induction roar competing with the metallic howl of the S54 at 7krpm - then slam, nxt gear is rammed in.

Absolute riot of a car to drive on full chat - and thats when the SMG shines

RedLightGreenLight

51 posts

43 months

£170k…. lol. Far better options and cars out there for the money, even more limited and special than this

GreatScott2016

2,028 posts

107 months

A wonderful thing, but like others have said, that is some price premium yikes as an aside, I used to live close to this dealership, they do have some lovely stock and if I was still living down south, I’d certainly have a look at this CSL, a cool thing cool

CH80

281 posts

16 months

At that price, I can get a Ferrari F12. No brainer which one I'd choose. The CSL is a (almost) great car but not F12/GT3RS great. You have to be a BMW nutter to get one and perhaps there are enough of them around...

liamthedude

55 posts

151 months

Priced to keep.

Leigh-o70eq

11 posts

84 months

Not sure who writes these articles but the CSL badge returned on the M4 CSL, and the very limited 3.0 CSL as mentioned.

M3 CSL had brake issues on track, and the gearbox although maligned at the time actually adds to the experience. The cardboard boot covering was another issue drawn by hacks at the time, with some saying what's the point of 4 seats if you can't use the boot.
However, a simple replacement with the standard M3 boot covering would resolve the problem.

So today the M3 CSL is praised yet at the time hacks moaned and didn't fully appreciate the car. Sounds similar for the most recent M4 CSL which will be the last ICE only version.

200Plus Club

12,402 posts

297 months

Priced to keep slowly rotting away. 70 grand overpriced perhaps?

RedLightGreenLight

51 posts

43 months

CH80 said:
At that price, I can get a Ferrari F12. No brainer which one I'd choose. The CSL is a (almost) great car but not F12/GT3RS great. You have to be a BMW nutter to get one and perhaps there are enough of them around...

My thoughts exactly, Ferrari F12 all day long vs this BMW.

Honestly can’t see this car selling at this price. If it was box fresh with zero miles I would understand the potential appeal to a deep pocket collector. But for something average looking….

Leigh-o70eq

11 posts

84 months

CH80 said:
At that price, I can get a Ferrari F12. No brainer which one I'd choose. The CSL is a (almost) great car but not F12/GT3RS great. You have to be a BMW nutter to get one and perhaps there are enough of them around...
Better than a F12 which is rubbish on track and also a lot newer with too much nanning electronics. Also at the time the CSL was better than the same age GT3.

bennno

14,623 posts

288 months


I had one of these new, dealer gave me a 30k discount as they couldn’t sell them.

I sold it after 6 months, wasn’t as good as a standard car.

SMG is a horrid thing, the carbon seats and door panels just made it considerably noisier than a standard car.

Was told not to put anything substantial in the boot, due to the cardboard floor.

Slowlygettingit

832 posts

60 months

Gorgeous looking thing. Possibly best looking wheels ever…
Looks great in both colours so not sure which is go for.

It’d be about the 5th car into my dream collection, higher mile one so it could be used, would try the SMG for a few 1000 miles and then consider the manual conversion.


Jon_S_Rally

4,111 posts

107 months

Wonderful. Sure it's expensive, but it's an icon, so wouldn't be at all surprised if it sells.

Personally, I'd buy a regular manual E46 M3 and throw a few CSL bits on it, but I can see why someone would want the real deal. Whichever one you choose, this is peak M3 for me.

maura

517 posts

42 months

I agree buy the best E46 M3 Manual add the Karbonius CSL Airbox and software change. I had from new a CSL in 2003 in Spain and thrashed it round Ascari Circuit for almost a year. Mine was one of the first cars that showed up the subframe issue. Amazing sounding car and I didn t think the SMG was that bad on full chat, but think a manual now would be ideal for that car, Darragh at Everything M3 s supposedly does a great conversion. But yes, best standard M3 Manual with Karbonius Air Box for £40k would be my shout. But wouldn t be surprised if that Slades car sells at £150k, even though 33% of production is UK, makes me think my Spanish one would be north of 200k euros now think they only got 30 cars, the upgrade on standard on Spanish plates was close to double the cost. Just remembered a friend had the Original BMW Airbox installed on his E46 M3 Convertible, holy moly what a sound roof down.

Edited by maura on Sunday 9th November 09:46


Edited by maura on Sunday 9th November 09:59

cerb4.5lee

39,446 posts

199 months

The value of these always blows my head off really, because back when they were new, BMW couldn't give them away, because nobody wanted them, and they bought the standard E46 M3 instead. Mad really.

cerb4.5lee

39,446 posts

199 months

bennno said:
I had one of these new, dealer gave me a 30k discount as they couldn t sell them.

I sold it after 6 months, wasn t as good as a standard car.

SMG is a horrid thing, the carbon seats and door panels just made it considerably noisier than a standard car.

Was told not to put anything substantial in the boot, due to the cardboard floor.
That's how I remember them too, and nobody was interested in them back then as you say. Yet they are now known as an icon though? People are fickle aren't they?

Leins

10,024 posts

167 months

bennno said:
I had one of these new, dealer gave me a 30k discount as they couldn t sell them.

I sold it after 6 months, wasn t as good as a standard car.

SMG is a horrid thing, the carbon seats and door panels just made it considerably noisier than a standard car.

Was told not to put anything substantial in the boot, due to the cardboard floor.
I put all the wine for a 100+ person wedding in the boot of mine once, no issues. SMG needed to be reset every now and then to avoid clutch slur and keep it sharp, and auto mode definitely needed to be avoided

Mad price for this ornament though IMO

AndySheff

6,797 posts

226 months

170k ?! They're having a giraffe.

JJ77

438 posts

67 months


That's how I remember them too, and nobody was interested in them back then as you say. Yet they are now known as an icon though? People are fickle aren't they?



Nobody wanted them because of the list price over standard, but when they got discounted to basically 5k more than standard car, sold no problem. Like most things they became iconic later after seeing the engine route BMW took for M3.. no different with Porsche, 997 Sport Classic comes to mind. Have no doubt that car sells at 150, and agree with buy the best M3 E46 Manual plus CSL bits for 40k is a great option, I think these too will go up because not a lot of cared for ones out there, these were generally thrashed cars to really enjoy them. Good article Matt.

Edited by JJ77 on Sunday 9th November 10:15

Earthdweller

16,577 posts

145 months

cerb4.5lee said:
bennno said:
I had one of these new, dealer gave me a 30k discount as they couldn t sell them.

I sold it after 6 months, wasn t as good as a standard car.

SMG is a horrid thing, the carbon seats and door panels just made it considerably noisier than a standard car.

Was told not to put anything substantial in the boot, due to the cardboard floor.
That's how I remember them too, and nobody was interested in them back then as you say. Yet they are now known as an icon though? People are fickle aren't they?
I drove both the standard M3 and the 330ci back when they were new

I have to say I preferred the 330, it was just more useable and drivable

Like so many things .. sometimes less is more and it was one of the reasons why, when I bought a Z4, I went for the 3.0Si over the M, a decision I don't regret at all


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