Fly tipping - How do things like this even happen?
Fly tipping - How do things like this even happen?
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MattS5

Original Poster:

2,056 posts

210 months

This isn't something which happened overnight is it?
Vehicles must have been seen coming and going etc

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y4dxlgkp4o

Gary29

4,686 posts

118 months

Looks like that episode of The Simpons when Homer becomes the sanitation commissioner.

Huzzah

28,318 posts

202 months

MattS5 said:
This isn't something which happened overnight is it?
Vehicles must have been seen coming and going etc

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y4dxlgkp4o
I see the environment agency have recommended a 'root and branch' enquiry. Well that's all good then!

JoshSm

2,274 posts

56 months

How does it happen??

Inertia.
Understaffing.
People not bothering to do their jobs.
Officials being scared of the perpetrators.
Corruption.

Take your pick.


It's not like it's particularly difficult to identify those responsible, or their customers, and yet...

Even where action is taken usually **** all happens. And it takes forever for the mess to be cleared.

Be an innocent affected landowner though and expect to get jumped on.

Spare tyre

11,821 posts

149 months

I’ll forward your email on to another department

We don’t use common sense here

I will be out of the office for the next two weeks learning how to substantially knit yogurts in the work place

Gareth79

8,572 posts

265 months

Probably the same as the "Arnolds Field" flytipping, where local residents and councillors watched it get filled up over a number of years, and effectively nothing was done.

Spare tyre

11,821 posts

149 months

We had a situation here where some poor (silly) sod let a area out to a tyre processing place

They didn’t do anything with the tyres other than compress them
And store them very neatly

This went on for years, then the people did a runner

The tyres sat there for 20 odd years if memory serves until they eventually went

98elise

30,637 posts

180 months

MattS5 said:
This isn't something which happened overnight is it?
Vehicles must have been seen coming and going etc

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y4dxlgkp4o
The article says a month. Thats a lot of trucks!

Agent57

2,251 posts

173 months

MattS5 said:
This isn't something which happened overnight is it?
Vehicles must have been seen coming and going etc

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y4dxlgkp4o
I thought the same when I read that article.

Mind you, when people get the third degree and charged when trying to dispose at their local tip is it really surprising.

They are too busy fining people who poor drinks down the drain to catch serious fly-tippers.

BrettMRC

5,249 posts

179 months

98elise said:
MattS5 said:
This isn't something which happened overnight is it?
Vehicles must have been seen coming and going etc

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y4dxlgkp4o
The article says a month. Thats a lot of trucks!
Or tractors & trailers...

Camoradi

4,700 posts

275 months

google maps shows this company at what appears to be the only access point to the site ....

https://www.silverstonestorage.co.uk/



Drone footage shows a single container in the field to the left

scratchchin

BrettMRC

5,249 posts

179 months

Camoradi said:
google maps shows this company at what appears to be the only access point to the site ....

https://www.silverstonestorage.co.uk/



Drone footage shows a single container in the field to the left

scratchchin
Unless the concrete shown here in 2023 has been removed?


M1AGM

3,945 posts

51 months

MattS5 said:
This isn't something which happened overnight is it?
Vehicles must have been seen coming and going etc

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y4dxlgkp4o
There was something similar down in the SW a few months back. Refuse collectors with valid permits charging full rates to businesses/individuals and then fly tipping. Police seemed unable/incompetent at dealing with it. The BBC (or sky) traced the permits to an Eastern european bloke who was running the scam. He couldnt have cared less when he was confronted, not bothered at all. Not his countryside innit. Can slink off back to wherever he came from if things got tasty and god forbid anyone actually charged him with an offence.

Mr Whippy

31,844 posts

260 months

That must be literally hundreds and hundreds of loads.

Over 1 month that must be very noticeable. It's across fields at this time of year, so lots of mud on the road. And where did that kind of flow come from? The cost to move it must have been high. Has somewhere else been cleared out nearby? No one finds that much rubbish with willing fly-tippers to come use it in such an organised manner in a short space of time.


Very clearly people knew this was going on, but no one can do anything because the system is just broken. Police can't do anything. EA basically rubbish. The perpatrators probably "scary" (where are SOCA these days? Weren't they the solution to this kind of crap, or are they now corrupted into it?)

And now, somehow, what people fly tipped so easily, would cost the council more than their entire budget to get rid of?

So how on earth would they have got rid of it via the correct means if it rolled up at the tip? Are the council saying their annual budget would have doubled within one month with fees from waste?

It's non-sensical.

Just move it across to the middle of the adjacent field and burn it.

Then find the people who did it, and throw them on while you're at it.

Then sit back and watch how many people try it again (clue, it'll be none because no one wants to be burned alive on a waste fire)

Castrol for a knave

6,517 posts

110 months

Spare tyre said:
I ll forward your email on to another department

We don t use common sense here

I will be out of the office for the next two weeks learning how to substantially knit yogurts in the work place
All the Environment Agency people I know are all too busy applying for thier own jobs as yet another strategic review takes place.

It has been gutted

Always team leader and below though, the senior management seem to drift around and then pick up a nice job at the National Trust and knighthood

Mikebentley

7,827 posts

159 months

Spare tyre said:
We had a situation here where some poor (silly) sod let a area out to a tyre processing place

They didn t do anything with the tyres other than compress them
And store them very neatly

This went on for years, then the people did a runner

The tyres sat there for 20 odd years if memory serves until they eventually went
Username checks out! I’ve always wanted to post this.

Spare tyre

11,821 posts

149 months

Mikebentley said:
Spare tyre said:
We had a situation here where some poor (silly) sod let a area out to a tyre processing place

They didn t do anything with the tyres other than compress them
And store them very neatly

This went on for years, then the people did a runner

The tyres sat there for 20 odd years if memory serves until they eventually went
Username checks out! I ve always wanted to post this.
In the words of the great Orville Richard Burrell - it wasn’t me