Tesla supercharger 50p per min over 80%
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Have I missed this and its been around for ages? Seems a bit rum?
I do a 450 mile round trip once a month ish so it makes perfect sense to leave home fully charged and fully charge at the other end again for the return leg.
So 1 charging stop for the total trip.
So now I have to pay 50p/min more or stop twice? I appreciate its not a lot of money but its a "charger congestion fee" and I have to say when I was sat there at 545am on Saturday with not a single other car on the super charger I did think to myself its a rip off... I can understand it if there was a lot of people waiting. I half expected the message to not appear due to the time but it did.
I have never noticed this before so is it a new thing?
I do a 450 mile round trip once a month ish so it makes perfect sense to leave home fully charged and fully charge at the other end again for the return leg.
So 1 charging stop for the total trip.
So now I have to pay 50p/min more or stop twice? I appreciate its not a lot of money but its a "charger congestion fee" and I have to say when I was sat there at 545am on Saturday with not a single other car on the super charger I did think to myself its a rip off... I can understand it if there was a lot of people waiting. I half expected the message to not appear due to the time but it did.
I have never noticed this before so is it a new thing?
gotoPzero said:
Have I missed this and its been around for ages? Seems a bit rum?
I do a 450 mile round trip once a month ish so it makes perfect sense to leave home fully charged and fully charge at the other end again for the return leg.
So 1 charging stop for the total trip.
So now I have to pay 50p/min more or stop twice? I appreciate its not a lot of money but its a "charger congestion fee" and I have to say when I was sat there at 545am on Saturday with not a single other car on the super charger I did think to myself its a rip off... I can understand it if there was a lot of people waiting. I half expected the message to not appear due to the time but it did.
I have never noticed this before so is it a new thing?
I think it's a fairly new thing but this article seems to suggest it's only applied when the site is at capacityI do a 450 mile round trip once a month ish so it makes perfect sense to leave home fully charged and fully charge at the other end again for the return leg.
So 1 charging stop for the total trip.
So now I have to pay 50p/min more or stop twice? I appreciate its not a lot of money but its a "charger congestion fee" and I have to say when I was sat there at 545am on Saturday with not a single other car on the super charger I did think to myself its a rip off... I can understand it if there was a lot of people waiting. I half expected the message to not appear due to the time but it did.
I have never noticed this before so is it a new thing?
https://www.tesla.com/en_gb/support/charging/super...
B5mike said:
No, actually designed to encourage time efficient fast charging - 2 shorter stops Vs one long stop. Benefits the user and the network
Indeed. The OP won't be charged a penny more and gets to spend less time overall charging. Just make two short stops.Also the per kwh price actually delivered into the cars battery reduces overall as charging losses are less between 20-80%.
Tesla have kindly educated their customers to help them stop wasting their own time and money.
TheDeuce said:
B5mike said:
No, actually designed to encourage time efficient fast charging - 2 shorter stops Vs one long stop. Benefits the user and the network
Indeed. The OP won't be charged a penny more and gets to spend less time overall charging. Just make two short stops.Also the per kwh price actually delivered into the cars battery reduces overall as charging losses are less between 20-80%.
Tesla have kindly educated their customers to help them stop wasting their own time and money.
Discussed quite extensively in a previous thread
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
CMTMB said:
Discussed quite extensively in a previous thread
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
And most people that don't make a habit of licking passing windows seem to see the sense of it on that thread too!https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
These cars have a range of 250-300 miles, that's 5-6 hours of driving time in the UK... Just make a couple of shorter stops, it's safer that way even if the driver isn't bothered about also saving time and money.
I'll look forward to the thread where shoppers complain about the supermarket giving them advice on how to buy to the groceries from the same shop for less money..
Terminator X said:
When I mentioned (a few months ago) that EV's get charged more once over 80% I was roundly mocked. No doubt it will be apologies all around 
TX.
In fairness, innocent people might have assumed you'd be wrong based solely on many years of previous form.TX.
I think you have to accept some responsibility for that
FeelingLucky said:
Rightly or wrongly, I'm with St Elon on this one. Once you're passed 80% charge, it slows down so much as to make continuing a false economy, so much so the the space/charger would be FAR better utilised by anybody else.
While I don't want to (completely) open that old can of worms, the often quoted 80% level after which charging speed falls off a cliff is a frequently misquoted inaccurate generalisation, and doesn't stand up to real world observations.However, one thing I've learnt after 4+ years of Tesla ownership, is that you do it their way or not at all.
Since having my Tesla I find it much easier to just stop for 5 mins then carry on, once is plugged into the map it starts pre sorting the battery so when you arrive it can really chuck the electric in,
A few weekends ago on the ways back from the Cotswolds, it suggested a stop at Hopwood services, 10.3kw's took 4 mins according to the app, I was then on my way and charged properly when I got home.
They don't want you doing 10 - 100 at the superchargers
A few weekends ago on the ways back from the Cotswolds, it suggested a stop at Hopwood services, 10.3kw's took 4 mins according to the app, I was then on my way and charged properly when I got home.
They don't want you doing 10 - 100 at the superchargers
I've nothing against this sort of charging, in fact I think it's necessary in one form or another, but I do wonder if they'd get more acceptance from the public if they made it fixed "standing charge + unit cost" model; say 30p/kWh plus 30p/minute, or something, rather than having a hard limit at 80%?
kambites said:
I've nothing against this sort of charging, in fact I think it's necessary in one form or another, but I do wonder if they'd get more acceptance from the public if they made it fixed "standing charge + unit cost" model; say 30p/kWh plus 30p/minute, or something, rather than having a hard limit at 80%?
Not really. The idea is that you simply avoid the congestion charge by leaving the site when you reach 80%.TheDeuce said:
Terminator X said:
When I mentioned (a few months ago) that EV's get charged more once over 80% I was roundly mocked. No doubt it will be apologies all around
TX.
In fairness, innocent people might have assumed you'd be wrong based solely on many years of previous form.TX.
I think you have to accept some responsibility for that
TX.
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