Any city dwellers got a 997S with the sports exhaust?

[gmk666]

I know it'll sound great, but high cost of retro fitting (£1800ish) and even higher chance of abuse from neighbours / passers-by is making me wonder. Do you leave it switched on in town? Is it worth it?

[jjr1]

I am getting a Tubi fitted and there is no switch

[Loonycat]

Well I've got a 996 with PSE and live in central London so can probably comment. I always switch it back to baffled mode when I start the car or pull into my garage. While I love hearing it above 3500rpms on the open road deafening the neighbours isn't my idea of fun so I flick it off. But that is only when I'm around home - anywhere else in town I let it rip. And don't the pedestrians leap out of the way when they hear it!

Sounds like quite an investment to get it retrofitted - if you get regular chances to let it rip out of town and will never take that mighty roar for granted, go for it!

Loony

[johnag007]

I have, perfect. Just 1 word though, in order for it to work you have to engage the Sports Mode, which makes in turn the accelerator pedal more immediate. In town and in the middle of traffic, it is not what I prefer. Then again, in town / traffic is not what the PSE is made for anyway!
Absolutely go for it, and get the short shift also.

JAG

[cyberface]

The concept of a switchable exhaust is genius. Being able to start the car and warm it through (slowly, as always) without pissing everyone off - followed by being able to get the proper, true Porsche flat 6 sound when appropriate, is utterly ideal for me.

Unfortunately the only one I've come across for the 993 is the RUF system, which is a lot of money for noise convenience.

Is it that tricky on an engineering basis to have a motorised flap / baffle inside a silencer box? I'd assume it's not easy, due to wide temperature differences and the effect on tolerances, not to mention the effects of high heat on the actuator. Especially when the car in question has a habit of popping unburnt fuel in the exhaust itself

I don't have a 996 but have heard the sports system on one (which definitely gives it some much needed character!) - I'd love a switchable hybrid of the Fabspeed Supercup (for mentalism) and the standard exhaust (for discretion) on my 993. I also heard that the 996 switchable only costs a bomb because of the labour required to wire up the toggle switch (the exhaust itself is comparatively cheap). Presumably an ambitious techie could remove the need for wiring through the entire car (carpet removal etc. and related exorbitant costs) by making the exhaust Bluetooth switchable, and controllable via a cheap switch on the steering wheel??? Or, alternatively, it's pie-in-the-sky cos I've had a lot to drink tonight and no pies to soak it up

In the future I can see synthesised audio taking the place of this, with the actual engine exhaust being tuned for optimum efficiency and minimal noise. Yes it's 'fast and furious' style, but it'd be handy to be able to dial in a specified dB limit with the same fantastic sound - no aggro on quiet trackdays.

And yes, I'm aware how sad this makes me sound, but engine noise, especially the iconic engines, is one of the few pleasures left when stuck in SE England traffic. If you can't go fast, at least you can revel in the engine note. Thinking back, that was the best thing about my Griff 500....

[gmk666]

Thanks for your points of view. Jjr1, I'll listen out for the Tubi. My car doesn't get out of London very much and when it does, it's mainly on the A1 to back up North. Having now heard a 996 with PSE, I've decided I'm far too much of a shrinking vesuvious to rattle windows around town, so I think my mind has been made up. The ££££'s are going to stay in my pocket (for a bit).

[iain777]

gmk666 said:

I know it'll sound great, but high cost of retro fitting (£1800ish) and even higher chance of abuse from neighbours / passers-by is making me wonder. Do you leave it switched on in town? Is it worth it?

Get that money spent....ya go out an buy the car.... it's gotta sound like the car...The only thing you'll regret is spending the money on an audio upgrade you'll never listen too...have fun Iain

[jjr1]

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=213461&f=48&h=0

City Dweller and no problem with a Tubi

[Kurgen_]

jjr1 said:

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=213461&f=48&h=0 City Dweller and no problem with a Tubi

What about warranty.?

[gmk666]

I knew this was a bad idea. It's like going on an AA message board and asking if anyone fancies a pint.

[gross]

i have a 996 turbo 911 with a sport exhaust - its too noisey outside and inside the car. I preferred my standard exhaust - at least i could rev it out without waking the whole community up! If your going to buy an after market exhaust buy quality - Techart, Ruf. No back yard muffler that has'nt been tested.

[DanH]

Kurgen_ said:

jjr1 said: <a href="www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=213461&f=48&h=0">www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=213461&f=48&h=0</a> City Dweller and no problem with a Tubi What about warranty.?

They can't deny your warranty as long as the replacement part didn't cause the fault. So if your new exhaust leaks and melts half your wiring loom tough shit. If your RMS goes though then your are still covered.

With the new block exemption laws, they can't even wiggle out of warranty if you get a car serviced outside the OPC network as long as the parts are official or at least as good as official. Of course you could end up with a long tedious argument on that last point...

[murcielago_boy]

DanH said:

Kurgen_ said: jjr1 said: <a href="www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=213461&f=48&h=0"><a href="www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=213461&f=48&h=0">www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=213461&f=48&h=0</a></a> City Dweller and no problem with a Tubi What about warranty.? They can't deny your warranty as long as the replacement part didn't cause the fault. So if your new exhaust leaks and melts half your wiring loom tough shit. If your RMS goes though then your are still covered. With the new block exemption laws, they can't even wiggle out of warranty if you get a car serviced outside the OPC network as long as the parts are official or at least as good as official. Of course you could end up with a long tedious argument on that last point...

Quite correct. Amazing how few staff at Dealers know that... and how the manufacturers themselves will willingly "break the law" in an effort to not pay out. In court they lose.. (if the customer has the guts/time to take it all the way there)