"Trade sale" cars for sale by dealers...?
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When scrolling through car ads, it's almost inevitable to stumble across an advert with a description of this nature in some way or another:
"All our vehicles offered for sale are strictly sold as seen on a trade sale basis and no warranty is implied or given.
Whilst we can supply vehicles to anybody, all our vehicles are intended for re-sale by our customers, for our customers commercial gain, so all transactions are business to business. When purchasing a vehicle from us we will acknowledge you as a sole trader or a business.
We advise that you either inspect the vehicle personally, have it inspected by a professional before purchasing, or conduct a thorough inspection upon delivery. As a trader engaged in vehicle sales, it is assumed that you possess the necessary expertise to evaluate the vehicle's condition bla bla bla"
Do adverts like these actually carry any weight from a legal standpoint? We all know that if buying from a dealer, you are normally protected by the consumer rights act (distance selling regulations, right to return with 30 days etc.)
Whether someone would be half sensible to purchase a car with a description like this is another question, but I'm curious if this is complete rubbish put together in the hope that someone will believe it or whether it actually protects the dealer against comebacks...?
"All our vehicles offered for sale are strictly sold as seen on a trade sale basis and no warranty is implied or given.
Whilst we can supply vehicles to anybody, all our vehicles are intended for re-sale by our customers, for our customers commercial gain, so all transactions are business to business. When purchasing a vehicle from us we will acknowledge you as a sole trader or a business.
We advise that you either inspect the vehicle personally, have it inspected by a professional before purchasing, or conduct a thorough inspection upon delivery. As a trader engaged in vehicle sales, it is assumed that you possess the necessary expertise to evaluate the vehicle's condition bla bla bla"
Do adverts like these actually carry any weight from a legal standpoint? We all know that if buying from a dealer, you are normally protected by the consumer rights act (distance selling regulations, right to return with 30 days etc.)
Whether someone would be half sensible to purchase a car with a description like this is another question, but I'm curious if this is complete rubbish put together in the hope that someone will believe it or whether it actually protects the dealer against comebacks...?
Trade sale, or business-to-business (which is different) are defined by the type of buyer. To just state "its a trade sale" in itself, is somewhat meaningless except to send a signal that you're going to have an uphill battle enforcing any CRA2015 rights later down the line. Traders do occasionally buy cars from other unknown traders having seen their adverts, but normally it would be at trade price not retail price.
The other factor is the price - is it retail price or trade price for that make/model/age/mileage/condition car?
The other factor is the price - is it retail price or trade price for that make/model/age/mileage/condition car?
aceofspades1 said:
Do adverts like these actually carry any weight from a legal standpoint? We all know that if buying from a dealer, you are normally protected by the consumer rights act (distance selling regulations, right to return with 30 days etc.)
Legal standpoint or not, the messaging is loud and clear that you are not going to be getting any money back or any issues fixed without wasting your entire life paying to drag them through the courts for a ruling in your favour, but you still won't get any money back or any issues fixed because they'll simply phoenix the company and reopen 2 days later under a new name.Anyone stiupid enough to ignore the underlying messaging in the ad wording that the car is knackered (or likely soon will be) deserves everything they get when they try to play dumb and expect their money back or a new engine on the £500 diesel Insignia they bought an hour ago which has just seized on the side of the M1.
Sadly the world is full of entitled stupids nowadays who want their cake and eat it, hence the dealers are forced into using that kind of wording in order to dispose of their ratty stock.
Tisy said:
Legal standpoint or not, the messaging is loud and clear that you are not going to be getting any money back or any issues fixed without wasting your entire life paying to drag them through the courts for a ruling in your favour, but you still won't get any money back or any issues fixed because they'll simply phoenix the company and reopen 2 days later under a new name.
Anyone stiupid enough to ignore the underlying messaging in the ad wording that the car is knackered (or likely soon will be) deserves everything they get when they try to play dumb and expect their money back or a new engine on the £500 diesel Insignia they bought an hour ago which has just seized on the side of the M1.
Sadly the world is full of entitled stupids nowadays who want their cake and eat it, hence the dealers are forced into using that kind of wording in order to dispose of their ratty stock.
This is the correct approach to take to it. Anyone stiupid enough to ignore the underlying messaging in the ad wording that the car is knackered (or likely soon will be) deserves everything they get when they try to play dumb and expect their money back or a new engine on the £500 diesel Insignia they bought an hour ago which has just seized on the side of the M1.
Sadly the world is full of entitled stupids nowadays who want their cake and eat it, hence the dealers are forced into using that kind of wording in order to dispose of their ratty stock.
You have to accept that going back and quoting the consumer rights act if things go wrong isn’t going to assist.
I personally don’t have a problem with traders doing this approach because I have bought cheap cars on this basis before accepting will have to do some work at some point.
Jamescrs said:
Tisy said:
Legal standpoint or not, the messaging is loud and clear that you are not going to be getting any money back or any issues fixed without wasting your entire life paying to drag them through the courts for a ruling in your favour, but you still won't get any money back or any issues fixed because they'll simply phoenix the company and reopen 2 days later under a new name.
Anyone stiupid enough to ignore the underlying messaging in the ad wording that the car is knackered (or likely soon will be) deserves everything they get when they try to play dumb and expect their money back or a new engine on the £500 diesel Insignia they bought an hour ago which has just seized on the side of the M1.
Sadly the world is full of entitled stupids nowadays who want their cake and eat it, hence the dealers are forced into using that kind of wording in order to dispose of their ratty stock.
This is the correct approach to take to it. Anyone stiupid enough to ignore the underlying messaging in the ad wording that the car is knackered (or likely soon will be) deserves everything they get when they try to play dumb and expect their money back or a new engine on the £500 diesel Insignia they bought an hour ago which has just seized on the side of the M1.
Sadly the world is full of entitled stupids nowadays who want their cake and eat it, hence the dealers are forced into using that kind of wording in order to dispose of their ratty stock.
You have to accept that going back and quoting the consumer rights act if things go wrong isn t going to assist.
I personally don t have a problem with traders doing this approach because I have bought cheap cars on this basis before accepting will have to do some work at some point.
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