RE: Hyper-rare TVR T440R for sale
RE: Hyper-rare TVR T440R for sale
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Hyper-rare TVR T440R for sale

One of two? Maybe three? No one knows, but the chance to buy Blackpool's road-going Le Mans racer don't come often


When was the last time a car stopped you dead in your tracks? At the risk of sounding jaded by the relentless supply of multi-million-pound hypercars, it’s rare for a new model to elicit an audible ‘wow’ upon laying eyes on it. If you feel the same way, then I suggest you visit the Classic Motor Show at the NEC (you’ll have to wait until next year, sadly), because it’s full of cars that are immensely rare, achingly cool and have yet to be plastered all over social media. It really does make you feel like a kid again.

Many ‘wows’ were had, particularly those prompted by a genuine 1992 Lancia Delta WRC in full Martini gear and an Alpine A110 rally car with a PH sticker on the wings. But it was the TVR Car Club’s display that floored me. There, front and centre of the stand, was an original TVR Speed 12 prototype from 1997. A car that I could have sworn didn’t exist, but there it was, looking splendid in reflex purple, as it awaits a comprehensive restoration. And if that wasn’t enough, the car parked next to it is the one we have for sale here: a bonafide T440R.

Also known as the TuscanR, Typhon and T400R at various points during its development (we'll come back to that), the T440R followed in the Speed 12’s footsteps as TVR’s ticket to Le Mans. The company tried and failed to run the Speed 12 at the legendary 24-hour race, but the binning off of the GT1 ruleset at the turn of the millennium meant the only place left for it to compete was in the British GT championship. Not willing to let the Le Mans dream die, TVR set about building another purpose-built racer to compete against Ferrari 360s and Porsche 911s in the LMGT class for 2003. However, the FIA required that at least two variants be built for it to be allowed through the door, so one came badged as the T400R with a 4.0-litre straight-six and another as the T440R with a 4.2-litre engine.

Remarkably, the car we have here, ZNG, is believed to be the one and only T400R. Its 4.0-litre engine has long gone, however, in its place a new, 4.4-litre straight-six with power up from the original’s 400hp to 440hp, matching that of the original factory T440R. Complicated, isn’t it? But just like any TVR, just because it left the factory in a certain state wasn’t a sign that it was finished. And it’ll come as no surprise that the company slapped a supercharger on the third car and gave it the aforementioned Typhon name.

Anyway, back to the car in question. While its engine has received a few tweaks over the years, the rest of the car remains the same. The T440R was built around a tubular frame chassis with an aluminium honeycomb floor, integrated roll cage and carbon fibre bodywork. It tipped the scales at a little over a tonne and, with its CAD-developed shape resulting in a slippery 0.32cd, was said to be capable of 200mph plus. An incredible feat given it was built from the ground up in a factory akin to a blacksmith’s workshop.

Like the Speed 12, there’s an element of mystery to the T440R. Nobody really knows how many they made, nobody can properly remember which one was called what, and most accounts from former TVR employees are contradictory at best. But this one is arguably the most well-known of the lot, having been a former press car (and driven by Clarkson pre-new Top Gear) and appearing at the occasional show. The seller’s looking for £249,990, comfortably making this the most expensive TVR shy of the original Speed 12 (with another soon to follow). But there’s only one other like it, and the other hasn’t been seen in decades. So act now, because you may not get a second chance. 


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Benzinaio

Original Poster:

384 posts

21 months

Not as pretty as a Tuscan or 350C but what a piece of Rocking Horse poo!

Familymad

1,556 posts

236 months

Lost the Tuscan looks and not that much BHP but rarity factor high.

Mercutio

293 posts

181 months

Familymad said:
Lost the Tuscan looks and not that much BHP but rarity factor high.
I think this BHP comment is sadly a sign of the times we live in of recent. The last 15 years has skewed people's brains, in a world where Golf Rs have 350-odd bhp and a C63 having 500 odd bhp. Even an 812 has 700 (!) odd bhp, so of course once you enter this numbers way of thinking, the this thing must be "underpowered"...

...never mind that the original Honda NSX had 276 bhp from its V6, and yet is a great example of how there's a lot more to a great fast car than just raw bhp figures...?

I personally don't look at a car and go "what's the BHP" but that's just me.

200Plus Club

12,430 posts

297 months

Side view is weird, looks like the car is splitting in half and folding around the doors. Nice colour but not their best looking effort

coppice

9,395 posts

163 months

Familymad said:
Lost the Tuscan looks and not that much BHP but rarity factor high.
I wonder ... if it had weighed 50% more but had another 200 bhp you might not have said as much .

I don't live in a world where the same power as an early DFV or 7litre Cobra is airily didmissed as 'not that much '

Familymad

1,556 posts

236 months

Not looking for headline figures, only comparing it to my own Tuscan which was a supposed 400+ BHP with the red rose pack. To have put this out there with a little over that always seemed a bit lame. Sure it’s nippy but not flagship level gains from the stock range.

kambites

70,195 posts

240 months

Familymad said:
Not looking for headline figures, only comparing it to my own Tuscan which was a supposed 400+ BHP with the red rose pack. To have put this out there with a little over that always seemed a bit lame. Sure it s nippy but not flagship level gains from the stock range.
I'm not familiar with the rules at that time, but would it not have been limited by the LMGT formula? I know plenty of Le Mans versions of road cars over the years have had less power than the road-going versions of the same car.

cerb4.5lee

39,713 posts

199 months

Mercutio said:
Familymad said:
Lost the Tuscan looks and not that much BHP but rarity factor high.
I think this BHP comment is sadly a sign of the times we live in of recent. The last 15 years has skewed people's brains, in a world where Golf Rs have 350-odd bhp and a C63 having 500 odd bhp. Even an 812 has 700 (!) odd bhp, so of course once you enter this numbers way of thinking, the this thing must be "underpowered"...

...never mind that the original Honda NSX had 276 bhp from its V6, and yet is a great example of how there's a lot more to a great fast car than just raw bhp figures...?

I personally don't look at a car and go "what's the BHP" but that's just me.
Power to weight has always been a TVR's trump card for me, and they feel light and nimble in comparison to a lot of cars. I remember both my Z4M and V8 M3 felt like absolute fatties after my Cerbera for example.

Caddyshack

13,235 posts

225 months

Could a 440 hp really hit 200mph regardless of cd factor? (Within reason of what is possible for a road car cd?)

Sporky

9,471 posts

83 months

Is there a grille missing at the front?

Looks awesome though. 440bhp in something like that sounds plenty - this isn't a Top Trumps car - but I imagine it'll be a ferocious event to drive (with apologies for the floridity).

Sevenman

761 posts

211 months

Caddyshack said:
Could a 440 hp really hit 200mph regardless of cd factor? (Within reason of what is possible for a road car cd?)
It's about the right level. Ferrari F40 did it with 470 bhp and maybe a less slippery shape.

These cars are quite small.

So achievable, but not by a lot. Needs another 1000bhp oto be sure biggrin

cerb4.5lee

39,713 posts

199 months

Sevenman said:
It's about the right level. Ferrari F40 did it with 470 bhp and maybe a less slippery shape.

These cars are quite small.

So achievable, but not by a lot. Needs another 1000bhp oto be sure biggrin
Electric motors will do that for you as you say, but the only trouble with is electric is that some of them can barely manage a 100mph on their top end though! hehe

deeen

6,248 posts

264 months

Well, it's quite nice. wink

The issue for me is, if you have £250,000 to spend on a car (I don't), would this ever be top of the list?




nismo48

5,809 posts

226 months

Lovely rare thing

herebebeasties

728 posts

238 months

I believe there are four 400R/440R/Typhon cars?

(Photo courtesy Matthew Poxon, Goodwood TVRCC 2011 - https://flic.kr/p/abJyW8)


T14HON and TYP60N used to both be frequent regulars at Goodwood and PH events back then.

One of my photos:

cerb4.5lee

39,713 posts

199 months

^^^^
They're great pics, and I've always like the shape of these. cool

Wheel Turned Out

1,826 posts

57 months

deeen said:
Well, it's quite nice. wink

The issue for me is, if you have £250,000 to spend on a car (I don't), would this ever be top of the list?
Been for sale a little while now, and hasn't sold when put in auction last - so I'd say for most the answer is apparently no.

A fabulous thing, though.

MountainsofSussex

361 posts

205 months

I get that there are very few of them, but given it has a similar shape and performance to a Tuscan, is it really worth 5x more than even a very nice one of those?

Wacky Racer

40,226 posts

266 months

Lovely, but the price is a joke.

Think what else you can get for that kind of money.

DonkeyApple

65,117 posts

188 months

herebebeasties said:
I believe there are four 400R/440R/Typhon cars?

(Photo courtesy Matthew Poxon, Goodwood TVRCC 2011 - https://flic.kr/p/abJyW8)


T14HON and TYP60N used to both be frequent regulars at Goodwood and PH events back then.

One of my photos:
Yup.

'One of two? Maybe three? No one knows'

That's a load of bks from the author.

This red car is the T400 prototype that did the Le Mans Evo run and the motor shows next to the Green T440. It has spent almost all its life since decorated in the De Walt racing colours and stripped of running gear.

In its first guise it was badged as a TuscanR and then T400. It has never worn any of the other badges.

The silver car has always had a T440 badge.

The earlier Green car has worn multiple badges as it was used for the motor shows until NS took it as his car.

The second Green car is the only one ordered, specced and delivered to a customer and by the time it was delivered all the previous badge names had been dropped and everything was just called a Typhon.

The Orange car is the only one that was ever actually ordered and specced as a Typhon with its full supercharger set up. But was never delivered to its customer and the company went bust before they resolved the over heating issue.

We know all about these cars bar one single mystery, which is what happened to the Brown one that did the rounds of dealers and the Brundle video. Except I'm pretty sure I know exactly what happened to it as do others. NS wanted the Green customer T440. He literally wanted that car and have the customer wait for another one to be done. Instead of doing that TVR took another one and painted and trimmed it to be identical. There was only one car in existence that this could have been done to.

There are 5 cars. This TuscanR/T440. The Silver T440, a brace of Reflex Green/Charcoal T440 spec cars badged as Typhon's and the Orange Typhon, which was originally supercharged.