Parking brake sh*t design

[bosshog]

Aside from the the fact it should be pull to turn them on IMO, anyone else have constant issue with there’s?

My GT4 over the 3 years I had it , needed adjustment/fixing 3 times.
Now my 911 TS is giving the same error.

[jimbo761]

No issues in nine years. That said it’s usually parked in a level garage so just left in park with the parking brake off.

[Maxym]

None with any of my three 9X1 cars

[David W.]

Two 9x1 cars and no issues over 10 years combined.

[bosshog]

Looks like I’m incredibly unlucky then

[LunarOne]

I get the occasional parking brake error in my 981. But shutting off the car and restarting the engine clears it. It's happened 3-4 times over about 7 years of ownership so I never bothered to investigate. It also happened infrequently on my previous car which was two years older.

[Inbox]

On mine, you pull it up and it is on, you pull up a bit more press the button and push down its off.

Works perfectly, no problems at all.

[I 8 a 4RE]

911 TS? Or ST? Of the latter that is unacceptable and they should be cupping your danglies as you wait for them to fix it in plane sight.

Tell your DP as much.

I also agree the parking brake goes the wrong way. I don’t drive my 911 very much, but get it wrong at least 70% of the time.

[Techno9000]

Agreed, it’s the opposite operation to the muscle memory we have got used to in pretty much every other vehicle. Why, why, why did they take that choice in design?

[The Wookie]

My old Cayenne needed constant readjustment, pain in the arse

GT3 Manual is a bit unusual in that it doesn't come on automatically with the ignition being turned off but I assume there's a reason or a setting that I'm missing for it.

[Roadrunner996]

bosshog said:

Aside from the the fact it should be pull to turn them on IMO, anyone else have constant issue with there s?

My GT4 over the 3 years I had it , needed adjustment/fixing 3 times.
Now my 911 TS is giving the same error.

What's the error message ? I get 'parking brake fault' come on every now and again on my Cayenne. Never on steep inclines, only on slight inclines !!

[bosshog]

Same message. Comes and goes, but is mostly there 7/10 drives now. I'm going to get it sorted - its just annoying as hell , as no other cars I've ever had or won currenlty have issues with the parking brake. Its just sh*t design on Porsches part IMO. My drive/garage is flat as well.

[Jon_Brown91]

Had a similar issue on my 992. Had a sensor replaced earlier this and no problem ever since

[pete]

Same with my old 991 GT3. Multiple trips to the dealer to resolve the parking brake error message, resulting in a new dash switch, new control module, and many many adjustments. 10s of hours of diagnosis under extended warranty, thank god, but massively inconvenient.

[BlackTails]

bosshog said:

Aside from the the fact it should be pull to turn them on IMO,

That’s something that grates with me too. Porsche set theirs up so you press it to engage it. Unlike a handbrake.

Land Rover set theirs up so you pull the little switch up to engage it. Far more satisfactory.

[LunarOne]

I used to drive a 1978 Buick Regal that had a foot-operated parking brake. But to release it you'd pull a little T-bar-shaped handle. And after I passed my test I didn't have a car of my own so drove my mother's 1984 Mercedes 230E. On that one, you pulled the handle to set the parking brake, but then twisted it to release. All my other cars have traditional handbrake levers, including my only automatic, a 1992 BMW 730i. So yes, the Porsche parking brake is always a confusing to operate.

People who never read the operator's manual of their car might not realise that the Porsche electronic parking brake control also doubles as an emergency brake for use in the event that the hydraulic service brake fails. Unlike a regular handbrake, the car will apply all four disc brakes to bring the car to a stop as quickly as physically possible. The only trouble is that in an emergency, I wouldn't know whether to pull or push! I have tried it at around 40mph and can confirm that the braking action is violent, but very, very effective. But still, I can't remember whether you need to push or pull.

According to the online manual, you push and hold.

https://manual.porsche.com/#/wpi/991-2016-20150525...

[CanAm]

Inbox said:

On mine, you pull it up and it is on, you pull up a bit more press the button and push down its off.

Works perfectly, no problems at all.

In 60 years of driving ( i hadn't noticed that anniversary!) In cars ranging from the sublime to the ridiculousl I have never suffered a fault or failure with a mechanical handbrake.

The only issues I've had were with a VAG courtesy car with an electronic gandbrake that came without a driver manual. Apart from it not being obvious whether you push or pull, the damned thing hung on like a limpet because the drivers door wasn't closed properly. A good safety feature, I suppose.

[bosshog]

I think when they started replacing good old pull up handbrakes it’s when the rotors started with modern cars - add more sh@t we never asked for or wanted. Look of the state of modern cars now with screens , adas etc

[AB]

991 has no issues, but more than likely because it's never used. Stick in P, turn it off.

[elisered]

Think of it like a brake pedal - push to stop, pull to go.
Counterintuitive but whingeing about it isn’t going to change the way it works.