No Confidence Vote

[Skyedriver]

Unlikely to see a vote of no confidence in the current leadership when they're all likely to be voting themselves out of a job.
Would be great if the general public could put forward a motion before the next General Election.
Scottish Elections next year. SNP or Liebour. What a choice.

[RSTurboPaul]

Skyedriver said:

Unlikely to see a vote of no confidence in the current leadership when they're all likely to be voting themselves out of a job.
Would be great if the general public could put forward a motion before the next General Election.
Scottish Elections next year. SNP or Liebour. What a choice.

If voting mattered, they wouldn't let us do it.

[Slow.Patrol]

There was a petition on the petition website demanding a general election.

Last time I looked, it had over 1m signatures.

[QuartzDad]

Slow.Patrol said:

There was a petition on the petition website demanding a general election.

Last time I looked, it had over 1m signatures.

There is usually at least one per parliament, a quick search shows one in 2022 with over 900,000 signatures.

[L1OFF]

Slow.Patrol said:

There was a petition on the petition website demanding a general election.

Last time I looked, it had over 1m signatures.

The Digital ID petition was >3M that will be ignored. These petitions really are a waste of time.

[FredericRobinson]

L1OFF said:

The Digital ID petition was >3M that will be ignored. These petitions really are a waste of time.

A petition of 3 million calling for a general election should be ignored too, get half the registered electorate to sign one and you'd have a case.

[Jamescrs]

Skyedriver said:

Unlikely to see a vote of no confidence in the current leadership when they're all likely to be voting themselves out of a job.
Would be great if the general public could put forward a motion before the next General Election.
Scottish Elections next year. SNP or Liebour. What a choice.

I get that people don't like the current government but it's not like there's any sort of reasonable alternative currently either

[Flooble]

FredericRobinson said:

L1OFF said:

The Digital ID petition was >3M that will be ignored. These petitions really are a waste of time.

A petition of 3 million calling for a general election should be ignored too, get half the registered electorate to sign one and you'd have a case.

Given turnout in the actual election was barely over half (59% I think) I'd say that if you hit 30% of the registered electorate - i.e. half of those who actually bothered to vote - that would be enough.

[FredericRobinson]

Flooble said:

Given turnout in the actual election was barely over half (59% I think) I'd say that if you hit 30% of the registered electorate - i.e. half of those who actually bothered to vote - that would be enough.

At any given time a lot more than 30% of the registered electorate will want the incumbent goverment kicking out, it's a ridiculously low bar, only 33% of those who voted last time voted for the government. We'd be having general elections every 5 minutes. There's already far too much chopping and changing of ministers and party leaders, never mind governments.

[DeejRC]

RSTurboPaul said:

Skyedriver said:

Unlikely to see a vote of no confidence in the current leadership when they're all likely to be voting themselves out of a job.
Would be great if the general public could put forward a motion before the next General Election.
Scottish Elections next year. SNP or Liebour. What a choice.

If voting mattered, they wouldn't let us do it.

The wisest thing anyone ever said about elections.

[Bill]

Amazing how some votes can be overturned but others are inviolable...

[valiant]

Bill said:

Amazing how some votes can be overturned but others are inviolable...

Funny that, isn’t it?

Mention Brexit and its cast in stone, never to be revisited until at least as long as we’ve been in the EU or to be out long enough to give it a chance <insertrandomamountofyearsherebutmakeitlots>

Have a democratically elected government that you don’t like and it’s “why can’t we vote them out early and how do we get rid of them?”

I guess democracy can be pretty selective for some people…

[Mikebentley]

This shower know what they are doing. Give money to the feckless breeders and effectively buy a vote. Meanwhile squeeze the workers for more cash via stealth taxation to fund it. All the while lining their own pockets. Thus it always was.

[mike9009]

valiant said:

Bill said:

Amazing how some votes can be overturned but others are inviolable...

Funny that, isn t it?

Mention Brexit and its cast in stone, never to be revisited until at least as long as we ve been in the EU or to be out long enough to give it a chance <insertrandomamountofyearsherebutmakeitlots>

Have a democratically elected government that you don t like and it s why can t we vote them out early and how do we get rid of them?

I guess democracy can be pretty selective for some people

Precisely my thoughts.

Brexit was something I didn't agree with or vote for (and still don't) but I fully supported that the government had to get Brexit done........as witnessed in my posts on these pages.

The fact that people are trying to over rule our democratic process when someone they don't like is in power is slightly worrying and sour grapes.

At the next election the democratic process will decide. It is how democracy works......

[TwigtheWonderkid]

valiant said:

Bill said:

Amazing how some votes can be overturned but others are inviolable...

Funny that, isn t it?

Mention Brexit and its cast in stone, never to be revisited until at least as long as we ve been in the EU or to be out long enough to give it a chance <insertrandomamountofyearsherebutmakeitlots>

Have a democratically elected government that you don t like and it s why can t we vote them out early and how do we get rid of them?

I guess democracy can be pretty selective for some people

It's staggering isn't it. Apparently this democratically elected govt should be disbanded by the King, who should issue an order to the army to oust them because.....they don't care about British values.

Like a military coup is the real hallmark of British values.

[AbbeyNormal]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

valiant said:

Bill said:

Amazing how some votes can be overturned but others are inviolable...

Funny that, isn t it?

Mention Brexit and its cast in stone, never to be revisited until at least as long as we ve been in the EU or to be out long enough to give it a chance <insertrandomamountofyearsherebutmakeitlots>

Have a democratically elected government that you don t like and it s why can t we vote them out early and how do we get rid of them?

I guess democracy can be pretty selective for some people

It's staggering isn't it. Apparently this democratically elected govt should be disbanded by the King, who should issue an order to the army to oust them because.....they don't care about British values.

Like a military coup is the real hallmark of British values.

Dont these people know, hey can overturn the vote by gathering to together in parliament square and shouting in union "we are the freemen of the land and we demand another vote because we didn't get the vote we wanted the first time around". They can then don hats made from a thin aluminium sheet, turn off their hankoi(tm) phones and storm parliament waving a photocopied Magna Carta. Job done.

[Countdown]

I wish we could re-run our County Council elections. It's been an absolute st-show since Reform took over. Just non-stop lying, increase in taxes and cuts to services.

[Gecko1978]

Brexit is funny because when the vote was passed we then had MPs trying to undermine it and the party that fought for it (UKIP) not involved in the process (probably a good thing to be fair). I don't think Brexit was a sucess at all. The last GE has seen a party elected that broke manifesto pledges and has cabinet members lie it seems to me they might do as much damage as Brexit

[Crumpet]

I strongly agree that you shouldn’t just be able to oust an elected government just because you don’t like what they’re doing.

But when an elected government goes off-piste and does stuff in direct contrast to their manifesto pledges then I think there’s a case for it. I mean, where do you draw the line? What if they started locking up people who started speaking out or criticising them? There has to be a degree of accountability otherwise pre-election promises can just be totally abandoned. And changing leadership is dodgy ground to me as well.

I despise the current lot beyond belief, but I don’t think we’re at the point where an election should be held - if only because the opposition parties are still some way from being ready.

[BunkMoreland]

valiant said:

Bill said:

Amazing how some votes can be overturned but others are inviolable...

Funny that, isn t it?

Mention Brexit and its cast in stone, never to be revisited until at least as long as we ve been in the EU or to be out long enough to give it a chance <insertrandomamountofyearsherebutmakeitlots>

Have a democratically elected government that you don t like and it s why can t we vote them out early and how do we get rid of them?

I guess democracy can be pretty selective for some people

I mean the obvious one would be "you can have another brexit referendum, 40 years after Brexit, as we were members of the EEC since 1975 (and even had a referendum confirming that at the time)

Though I would suggest that it should be 23 years after 2020. As we were in the "EU" when Major didnt bother to ask if we were still ok with the transformation of a free trading deal into one that somehow was so "free" it cost billions a year and somehow also meant control of our borders in 92.

I would also have suggested that IF Cameron had said "vote now, and in 15 years there will be another vote by law that cant be overturned" We'd probably not have Brexited at all. AND it might have given the EU a kick up the arse to start thinking about member states wants list if there was a real risk of states leaving.

The problem was that by never offering it before (or since) it was clear this was the ONLY chance the UK would get to leave. And as the smarter people say "always take your profit early and get out whilst you can!"


On removing democratically elected governments, I would suggest when that same bunch of feckless, duplicitous s start doing things that were never in their manifesto, it might be a trigger.

Who voted Labour for the levels of migration (both legal and illegal) we've seen over the last 18 months
Who voted for the tax rises and NI rises and all the other financial illiteracy?
Who voted to bring in mandatory Digital ID?