Facial Recognition technology
Discussion
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3r7pwpgeweo.a...
Looks like the Government have plans to increase the number of facial recognition cameras in the UK.
I'm not sure how I feel about this. If it gets bad people off the street, then that's a good thing, but it is a big brother thing, but no different to ANPR.
Will this then lead to legislation banning facial coverings?
Looks like the Government have plans to increase the number of facial recognition cameras in the UK.
I'm not sure how I feel about this. If it gets bad people off the street, then that's a good thing, but it is a big brother thing, but no different to ANPR.
Will this then lead to legislation banning facial coverings?
davek_964 said:
Slow.Patrol said:
Will this then lead to legislation banning facial coverings?
Unlikely. "My religion" seems to trump most laws. And as men seem to commit the vast amount of crime, I can't see religion being the problem.
As for facial recognition in general, it's just a new technology imho. You can't expect authorities not to use new technologies because it's somehow 'not fair'.
If you show your mug in public you have always run the risk of being recognised. That 'risk' has just increased, that's all.
swisstoni said:
davek_964 said:
Slow.Patrol said:
Will this then lead to legislation banning facial coverings?
Unlikely. "My religion" seems to trump most laws. And as men seem to commit the vast amount of crime, I can't see religion being the problem.
I'm sure they won't all do that, but religious beliefs allows them to do that if they choose and the law does not prohibit it. (And these days, they can always claim they don't identify as a man anyway).
davek_964 said:
swisstoni said:
davek_964 said:
Slow.Patrol said:
Will this then lead to legislation banning facial coverings?
Unlikely. "My religion" seems to trump most laws. And as men seem to commit the vast amount of crime, I can't see religion being the problem.
I'm sure they won't all do that, but religious beliefs allows them to do that if they choose and the law does not prohibit it. (And these days, they can always claim they don't identify as a man anyway).

AbbeyNormal said:
davek_964 said:
Slow.Patrol said:
Will this then lead to legislation banning facial coverings?
Unlikely. "My religion" seems to trump most laws. If what I said is not true - how is it that a man can board a flight with a woman's passport because he's covered his face? I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be able to get on a flight with my wife's passport - and wrapping a woollen scarf around my face wouldn't cut it.
How about within Catholic church where sexual discrimination is still clearly a thing - seen a female pope ever? - even though sexual discrimination is no longer allowed in many countries?
Slow.Patrol said:
Will this then lead to legislation banning facial coverings?
It's already proposed in the new crime and Policing bill:-"A new criminal offence which prohibits the wearing or otherwise using of an item that conceals identity when in an area designated by police under the new provisions.
This measure will criminalise the act of wearing or otherwise using an item (for instance a face covering) that conceals their or another person’s identity when in an area that the police have designated. A designation can only be made in relation to an area when the police reasonably believe that a protest may or is taking place in that area, the protest is likely to involve or has involved the commission of offences and that a designation would prevent or control the commission of offences. The offence will carry a maximum penalty of one month imprisonment, a £1000 fine, or both."
CypSIdders said:
Slow.Patrol said:
Will this then lead to legislation banning facial coverings?
It's already proposed in the new crime and Policing bill:-"A new criminal offence which prohibits the wearing or otherwise using of an item that conceals identity when in an area designated by police under the new provisions.
This measure will criminalise the act of wearing or otherwise using an item (for instance a face covering) that conceals their or another person s identity when in an area that the police have designated. A designation can only be made in relation to an area when the police reasonably believe that a protest may or is taking place in that area, the protest is likely to involve or has involved the commission of offences and that a designation would prevent or control the commission of offences. The offence will carry a maximum penalty of one month imprisonment, a £1000 fine, or both."

Crumpet said:
Tough one; we moan about lack of public sector productivity but when an AI tool comes in that could raise it we then moan about that.
But until they ban face coverings it s pretty pointless. I wonder if they can analyse gait as a means of identifying people?
On my walk up to the corner-shop this morning I saw the usual niqab wearing women plus loads of people with their little blue Covid masks as it's now flu season. But until they ban face coverings it s pretty pointless. I wonder if they can analyse gait as a means of identifying people?
Can't see face coverings being banned anytime soon.
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