Lopsided Wedge!!
Lopsided Wedge!!
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Wedged1

Original Poster:

2,366 posts

253 months

Saturday 8th October 2005
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Not sure if its an illusion but I'm sure my car is lopsided on the driver's side. Anyone else have this problem or know what the cause may be?

JR

14,332 posts

287 months

Saturday 8th October 2005
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Springs, out of shape body (from new,) mounting packing. Usually in that order of likelihood.

tallbloke

10,376 posts

312 months

Saturday 8th October 2005
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At bbwf someone said that my car was higher on the drivers side at the rear, so I got in and asked "Does it look level now?" They had to admit it did.

grahamw48

9,944 posts

267 months

Saturday 8th October 2005
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JR said:
out of shape body




A common malady?

digga951

490 posts

304 months

Saturday 8th October 2005
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My car is slightly different on each side to, but this is because the body mould was slightly mismatched on both sides. I just recently put a new nose cone on my car too, and this too was different from side to side.

To check, get a ruler and measure the distance between the side stripe/"step" in the body, to the top of the front valance a the front of the car. Im guessing it will be about 3/4 of an inch different from one side to the other - seen loads of wedges like that, especially in 320i S2 guise and anything that used that mould.

Dan

jmorgan

36,010 posts

313 months

Saturday 8th October 2005
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Whilst working on a 350 it was quite clear that one side had a lot more packing than the other.

Also a mate had a book on fibre glassing and quite a few photo's were taken at the TVR factory, probably early wedge production, but showing the patching up of the finished bodies after they had been popped out of the molds. Looked like a lot of filler being used

pwd95

8,452 posts

267 months

Saturday 8th October 2005
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Mine looks a bit like that, gives the impression it's slightly higher. It drives and handles fine so I've decided to ignore it.

adam quantrill

11,679 posts

271 months

Saturday 8th October 2005
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I saw a recent classic car mag that warns people off buying when the height is uneven. Now we all know that problem is quite common and usually nothing to worry about, but it might be one reason that the market has been slack - buyers being put off by uneven ride heights...

wedg1e

27,034 posts

294 months

Saturday 8th October 2005
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The Esprit suffers from the same problem... I think a lot of it is down to the packing rubbers perishing and/ or taking a set due to uneven loading (driver-only scenario).

combine

3,114 posts

258 months

Saturday 8th October 2005
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There is no problem with cars down a fraction on the drivers side as long as it's not more than an inch or two - so says the garage I take the wedge to and I've been going there for over 20 years with the boss and his son running the place doing all sorts of classic/normal stuff - mine leans too !!

SEvans

1,191 posts

296 months

Saturday 8th October 2005
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It seems this is not uncommon. Even after I lifted the body on mine after doing some work and replaced all the packers it still looked lower on the drivers side. I measured everything, chassis to floor, body to floor,chassis to body etc etc and came to the conclusion that it's just the way they are. I would measure the distance from the chassis to floor. If this is OK then it's not going to be the springs/suspension.

tallbloke

10,376 posts

312 months

Saturday 8th October 2005
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Looks like mine bucks the trend. I wonder what the experiences of LHD wedge owners are.

Wedged1

Original Poster:

2,366 posts

253 months

Sunday 9th October 2005
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It's re-assuring to know all you guys have the same sort of idiosycrancies - I only noticed it after I changed the steering column and swapped the the tyres over!!

350zwelgje

1,820 posts

290 months

Sunday 9th October 2005
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adam quantrill said:
I saw a recent classic car mag that warns people off buying when the height is uneven. Now we all know that problem is quite common and usually nothing to worry about, but it might be one reason that the market has been slack - buyers being put off by uneven ride heights...


With a separate frame like TVR have, it is normally no problem. You realy need to worry when a cars body acts also as a chassis (like all modern tin boxes) and you have different heights. For me TVR having a separate chassis was an additional reason to see a purchase as sensible (yes I know I am not), as well as having a non-stressed glasfibre body (unlike the original Lotus Elan for example). I must say that mine is ok, but I haven't taken any measurments.

Rob

James MK

556 posts

280 months

Sunday 9th October 2005
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I was told once that the original chassis jig was made crooked so the bodies all had to packed up more on one side to level them out.

JR

14,332 posts

287 months

Sunday 9th October 2005
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James MK said:
I was told once that the original chassis jig was made crooked so the bodies all had to packed up more on one side to level them out.

Cute idea but pure fiction. Chassis jig is very accurate.

wedgtable

317 posts

255 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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Mine is in bits at the moment for the very same reason. Springs are really rusty and driver side one is about 1/4 inch lower than new one (which through the car can give a bigger illusion) Also new springs are mucher firmer so therefore should support car better. A good eyeball for chassis/body alignment is to jack it up evenly, support it evenly remove wheels and check the distances between the chassis and body in the wheel arches. The results of the suspension rebuild are yet to be confirmed but will post on completion. I have to say though that whatever the result it will be worth doing the work, one less worry for the future!!!1

AM400

1,196 posts

292 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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wedgtable said:
Mine is in bits at the moment for the very same reason. Springs are really rusty and driver side one is about 1/4 inch lower than new one (which through the car can give a bigger illusion) Also new springs are mucher firmer so therefore should support car better. A good eyeball for chassis/body alignment is to jack it up evenly, support it evenly remove wheels and check the distances between the chassis and body in the wheel arches. The results of the suspension rebuild are yet to be confirmed but will post on completion. I have to say though that whatever the result it will be worth doing the work, one less worry for the future!!!1


I would be careful with the new springs, after fitting all my front suspension back on with new HD springs it had the ground clearence of a monster truck! on contacting the supplier I was told to cut the springs down but I decided to put the originals back on which are currently at the powder coaters, I wasn't pleased!

Andy

clasabro

88 posts

262 months

Tuesday 18th October 2005
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Add mine to the list, its lower on the drivers side. Thought it was compacted springs but new ones didn't improve matters. Handles o.k. but offends the eye a bit. May pack the front spring a bit when I get a spare minute, see what happens!

wedgtable

317 posts

255 months

Wednesday 19th October 2005
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AM400 said:

wedgtable said:
Mine is in bits at the moment for the very same reason. Springs are really rusty and driver side one is about 1/4 inch lower than new one (which through the car can give a bigger illusion) Also new springs are mucher firmer so therefore should support car better. A good eyeball for chassis/body alignment is to jack it up evenly, support it evenly remove wheels and check the distances between the chassis and body in the wheel arches. The results of the suspension rebuild are yet to be confirmed but will post on completion. I have to say though that whatever the result it will be worth doing the work, one less worry for the future!!!1



I would be careful with the new springs, after fitting all my front suspension back on with new HD springs it had the ground clearence of a monster truck! on contacting the supplier I was told to cut the springs down but I decided to put the originals back on which are currently at the powder coaters, I wasn't pleased!

Andy



Oh dear!!! no you have me worried. I did get the springs from tvr car parts!!! and they are not that much different in height. ( am I just trying to convince myself!!!)