Cloned Car

[WPA]

Words fail me with this one: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyvee57xz5o

[trails]

Man tries to get away with buying an obviously stolen car but doesn't get away with it. Sounds like a more accurate title.

[soad]

What a mess.

[Mad Maximus]

Getting to the point where even avid and detailed eyed car fans can get caught out. Even being really careful isn’t enough.

[Milkyway]

The VIN used to be stamped inside & visible through the base of the base of the windscreen.

Edited by Milkyway on Monday 8th December 14:12

[Dave Hedgehog]

Mad Maximus said:

Getting to the point where even avid and detailed eyed car fans can get caught out. Even being really careful isn t enough.

you just have to watch Mr Armstrong's latest youtube to see the lengths they go to clone a car and how organised it is, the avg punter has no chance to spot one, they change the VIN on the ECU so reading that is pointless and do EVs have a number on the motor?

another reason to buy from reputable dealers, its there problem as they cannot transfer ownership on something they don't own

Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Monday 8th December 14:12

[John D.]

Could have been worse:

Solihull man discovers he has bought his own stolen car - BBC News https://share.google/QEGrP6SK5SnyzV0yi

[AyBee]

Dave Hedgehog said:

Mad Maximus said:

Getting to the point where even avid and detailed eyed car fans can get caught out. Even being really careful isn t enough.

you just have to watch Mr Armstrong's latest youtube to see the lengths they go to clone a car and how organised it is, the avg punter has no chance to spot one, they change the VIN on the ECU so reading that is pointless and do EVs have a number on the motor?

another reason to buy from reputable dealers, its there problem as they cannot transfer ownership on something they don't own

Yes the lengths they go to are getting better, but you still have to do the basics correctly - if the price sounds too good to be true, it usually is! The cheapest EV6s on AT are £16k. Assuming it wasn't a leggy one, it should have been up towards £18k...

[Mad Maximus]

AyBee said:

Dave Hedgehog said:

Mad Maximus said:

Getting to the point where even avid and detailed eyed car fans can get caught out. Even being really careful isn t enough.

you just have to watch Mr Armstrong's latest youtube to see the lengths they go to clone a car and how organised it is, the avg punter has no chance to spot one, they change the VIN on the ECU so reading that is pointless and do EVs have a number on the motor?

another reason to buy from reputable dealers, its there problem as they cannot transfer ownership on something they don't own

Yes the lengths they go to are getting better, but you still have to do the basics correctly - if the price sounds too good to be true, it usually is! The cheapest EV6s on AT are £16k. Assuming it wasn't a leggy one, it should have been up towards £18k...

Price isn’t always a giveaway either. Quite often the crims are getting the big money by selling them at pretty much retail.

[Sheepshanks]

John D. said:

Could have been worse:

Solihull man discovers he has bought his own stolen car - BBC News https://share.google/QEGrP6SK5SnyzV0yi

That story seemed incredible to me at the time - they apparently did a very good cloning job on the car but both the cloners and the selling dealer left stuff in the car, and didn't clear the sat nav?

And, if you were a bit of a car guy, having had your old car nicked, would you really not think "hang on a minute, this is a bit too similar to my old car"?