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tight fart

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3,343 posts

293 months

Yesterday (09:16)
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My Daughter has a flat that she rents via a letting agent, Thursday she gets a call to say the ceiling plaster in the lounge is falling away, so big panic to try and get it resolved before Xmas as it doesn’t look safe.
We find a contractor who will go in today and remove all loose plaster and take away then return after Xmas to bond and re plaster in the new year.
This morning she awakes to an email from the agent saying the tenant will refuse entry and is going to report her to environmental health.
(They want paying to go out for the morning while the work is being done.)


PovertyPrince

529 posts

46 months

Yesterday (09:25)
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Well that’s because you went through an agent. She needs to handle it herself so she can properly vet who lives in her home - the agents only care about income compliance.

bennno

14,720 posts

289 months

Yesterday (10:14)
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tight fart said:
My Daughter has a flat that she rents via a letting agent, Thursday she gets a call to say the ceiling plaster in the lounge is falling away, so big panic to try and get it resolved before Xmas as it doesn t look safe.
We find a contractor who will go in today and remove all loose plaster and take away then return after Xmas to bond and re plaster in the new year.
This morning she awakes to an email from the agent saying the tenant will refuse entry and is going to report her to environmental health.
(They want paying to go out for the morning while the work is being done.)

To be fair what a pain in the ass for the tenant, they ve got to remove all their stuff from the room before Christmas, clean up and live with the dust, spend Christmas in a room without a ceiling and then do the same again after Christmas, wait for it to dry, plus presumably it then needs painting.

If I was the landlord, I d be offering to help them clear it out and giving them a rent rebate or a couple of nights away to make up for the inconvenience.

Simpo Two

90,435 posts

285 months

Yesterday (10:15)
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You evil, scheming capitalist bd! You should be locked up!

Yeah, I was a LL once, never again.

33q

1,603 posts

143 months

Yesterday (10:16)
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PovertyPrince said:
Well that s because you went through an agent. She needs to handle it herself so she can properly vet who lives in her home - the agents only care about income compliance.
This....We always vet....Agents don't like it though.

Whilst the work is being done take them out for a nice meal the hand them the Section 21 during coffee and brandies!

Panamax

7,536 posts

54 months

Yesterday (11:04)
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If the ceilings were all put up that badly they may all need to be replaced. Is there any history of similar problems in other flats in the block?

As regards the tenant, it'll be a lot of disruption that's no fault of theirs so she could look at waiving some rent, or doing something else that's tax-efficient.

T697JVS

63 posts

12 months

Yesterday (11:11)
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Simpo Two said:
You evil, scheming capitalist bd! You should be locked up!

Yeah, I was a LL once, never again.
Same here. Was very glad to get rid of my rental property (even though it was sold at less than market value as the last tenant trashed it) and never have to deal with tenants again. I was mostly lucky and had some decent ones but you only need one or two bad apples to really screw you over and with the change to renter’s rights and the tax changes, it just isn’t worth the hassle any more.

LooneyTunes

8,607 posts

178 months

Yesterday (16:43)
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Panamax said:
As regards the tenant, it'll be a lot of disruption that's no fault of theirs so she could look at waiving some rent, or doing something else that's tax-efficient.
For someone whose initial reaction is to try to hold a gun to the landlord’s head?

As for the environmental health report, that’ll get nowhere, but serves to nicely highlight the mindset of that tenant.

The question people should be asking is his quickly they could (not just making arrangements but coming up with the money to do so), or would, be able to sort something like that in their own home. 48hrs is pretty good. Tenant should be pleased their landlord is that responsive to issues.

Inbox

1,137 posts

6 months

Yesterday (17:13)
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That is horrible for tenants but stuff does happen as it would for any home owner.

The bit that sticks up your nose is the tenant attitude i.e. wanting to be paid to go out.

I have been involved in property rental and seen the bad tenants, you know the situation is bad when the complaint is about rubbish and sanitary products in the garden.

I think some due dilligence is needed to confirm the problem is isolated to the one room and the fault is just with the bonding of the plaster.

Would any insurance policy cover the costs?

Personally you've just had a warning shot about how they deal with problems, rather than facilitate the repairs so they get completed they are being transactional.

Well that goes both ways.

tight fart

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3,343 posts

293 months

Yesterday (17:14)
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Today was to make safe at the request of the tenant, the builder wanted 2 hours to remove and clear only, when he got there he could hear them inside but they refused access and pretended to be out.

Edible Roadkill

2,125 posts

197 months

Yesterday (17:18)
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Serve notice, carry out repairs then get someone else in.

SydneyBridge

10,659 posts

178 months

Yesterday (17:21)
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Edible Roadkill said:
Serve notice, carry out repairs then get someone else in.
This, if the tenants are going to be tts

Greasemonkey13

63 posts

112 months

Yesterday (17:28)
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If the plaster falling down is an isolated incident then the tenant is being a bit harsh…

Looking at that picture though, I fear there is more to this than is being divulged… the line of black mould where the wall meets the ceiling and poorly hung net curtains are quite telling smile

philv

5,062 posts

234 months

Yesterday (17:34)
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Scum tenants trying it on.

I'll never be a landlord agsin.
40% of tenants were vile.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,516 posts

255 months

Yesterday (17:36)
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PovertyPrince said:
Well that s because you went through an agent. She needs to handle it herself so she can properly vet who lives in her home - the agents only care about income compliance.
We had the chief constable of a certain area as our tenant. You'd think that was a safe bet. He turned out to be a nightmare. You really can't tell who's going to be OK & who isn't.

Hawkshaw

208 posts

55 months

Yesterday (17:47)
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The tenant is in breach of contract if they will not allow access for repairs, perfect grounds for getting them out.


Blue_star

450 posts

36 months

Yesterday (17:51)
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Sorry, expectation is that tenants spend Christmas with a roof thats not plastered? This is absolutely mental

JoshSm

2,480 posts

57 months

Yesterday (18:01)
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Blue_star said:
Sorry, expectation is that tenants spend Christmas with a roof thats not plastered? This is absolutely mental
I know you can be a bit special on this type of thing, but the ceiling will still have plaster on it, and the alternative of them blocking access is that it doesn't get fixed and they're left with loose bits hanging over their head.

Remediation followed by repair is entirely to the tenants' benefit.

Se7enheaven

1,883 posts

184 months

Yesterday (18:07)
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Greasemonkey13 said:
If the plaster falling down is an isolated incident then the tenant is being a bit harsh

Looking at that picture though, I fear there is more to this than is being divulged the line of black mould where the wall meets the ceiling and poorly hung net curtains are quite telling smile
I would say exactly the same. The photo certainly seems to tempt a few questions.

Blue_star

450 posts

36 months

Yesterday (18:10)
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JoshSm said:
Blue_star said:
Sorry, expectation is that tenants spend Christmas with a roof thats not plastered? This is absolutely mental
I know you can be a bit special on this type of thing, but the ceiling will still have plaster on it, and the alternative of them blocking access is that it doesn't get fixed and they're left with loose bits hanging over their head.

Remediation followed by repair is entirely to the tenants' benefit.
As opposed to replastering now?

I wonder if this happened overnight or there were complaints about the state of ceiling earlier as well