Potential brought a pup... what to do?
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So last month brought a 2009 Jaguar XKR 5.0 with 115k miles. It’s got really good service history serviced every 5k miles suspension refresh etc….
It needed a few things addressed tyres, brakes etc, so negotiated a deal at 10k
So far I’ve put fresh rubber all round and brakes and a service. So in for around 12/13k
I’ve had the engine management light come on, fault shows as catalytic converter, also the heater has packed up, replaced the blower fan but that’s not worked.
Also the engine has developed a rattle which some owners are saying supercharged coupler (not a massive deal) others are saying timing chain…….(big issue circa 3k fix I think)
Car is going into the garage tomorrow to hopefully figure out what that noise is.
In the meantime I am sitting here wondering what to do if it is a big bill item, do I get it all fixed or just cut my losses and let it go cheap, as still need to sort the cat out circa 1k and the bodywork is not in the best shape (had intention of tidying up but so far bills are stacking up so probs won’t)
What what the good people of PH suggest?
It needed a few things addressed tyres, brakes etc, so negotiated a deal at 10k
So far I’ve put fresh rubber all round and brakes and a service. So in for around 12/13k
I’ve had the engine management light come on, fault shows as catalytic converter, also the heater has packed up, replaced the blower fan but that’s not worked.
Also the engine has developed a rattle which some owners are saying supercharged coupler (not a massive deal) others are saying timing chain…….(big issue circa 3k fix I think)
Car is going into the garage tomorrow to hopefully figure out what that noise is.
In the meantime I am sitting here wondering what to do if it is a big bill item, do I get it all fixed or just cut my losses and let it go cheap, as still need to sort the cat out circa 1k and the bodywork is not in the best shape (had intention of tidying up but so far bills are stacking up so probs won’t)
What what the good people of PH suggest?
fflump said:
Defer judgment until you have the assessment from the garage. No point trying to second guess scenarios. I trust that it is being looked at by a specialist with experience in these cars and engines?
Good advice and vital that it's looked at by a specialist not a general garage.fflump said:
Good luck OP though I m unclear how a car serviced every 5,000 miles can need new tyres and brakes ? These sort of basics needing immediate attention is odd.
Because a service is not tyres or brakes probably? If the guy was selling and they needed replacing probably just thought it best to price that in the sale.
I can fit the discs and pads for around £350-400 as I do it myself, a garage would charge around £800-1000. Knock £500 of the price of the car.
Same with tyres, what do you fit? I would want a Micheln or Goodyear, the seller may have fitted Pirelli which I hate.
I always hate it when an advert says "Just had wheels powder coated at £600." and then see they are black! Got to do them again.
OP. Before you spend too much, have you properly checked underneath for rust?
Ed.Neumann said:
fflump said:
Good luck OP though I m unclear how a car serviced every 5,000 miles can need new tyres and brakes ? These sort of basics needing immediate attention is odd.
Because a service is not tyres or brakes probably? If the guy was selling and they needed replacing probably just thought it best to price that in the sale.
I can fit the discs and pads for around £350-400 as I do it myself, a garage would charge around £800-1000. Knock £500 of the price of the car.
Same with tyres, what do you fit? I would want a Micheln or Goodyear, the seller may have fitted Pirelli which I hate.
I always hate it when an advert says "Just had wheels powder coated at £600." and then see they are black! Got to do them again.
OP. Before you spend too much, have you properly checked underneath for rust?
It seems to be often the case on forums that people immediately chuck a few £K at tyres and brakes on buying a car only for it to throw up a potentially serious fault.
Ed.Neumann said:
fflump said:
Good luck OP though I m unclear how a car serviced every 5,000 miles can need new tyres and brakes ? These sort of basics needing immediate attention is odd.
Because a service is not tyres or brakes probably? If the guy was selling and they needed replacing probably just thought it best to price that in the sale.
I can fit the discs and pads for around £350-400 as I do it myself, a garage would charge around £800-1000. Knock £500 of the price of the car.
Same with tyres, what do you fit? I would want a Micheln or Goodyear, the seller may have fitted Pirelli which I hate.
I always hate it when an advert says "Just had wheels powder coated at £600." and then see they are black! Got to do them again.
OP. Before you spend too much, have you properly checked underneath for rust?
Ed.Neumann said:
Same with tyres, what do you fit? I would want a Micheln or Goodyear, the seller may have fitted Pirelli which I hate.
True but Pirelli P Zero were (I think) the original spec tyres. I had them on my XF 3.0 and they were okay providing it was dry. Now putting on ditchfinders I agree...
I briefly had a 2010 XKR, but after a few months it went back and I was refunded due to the cost of sorting. The main issue was the gearbox and the replacement gearbox (used) not working right, but it also had a very badly corroded subframe, various suspension bushes and needed new brakes. The paintwork was also less than brilliant, so I cut my losses and got the refund.
However, if the gearbox had been fine, I would have sorted the issues and kept it as it was a fantastic car. I think the values are also rising, as I paid £17k for one and when I looked a short while back there were none at that price point except very high mileage ones.
It depends what you can afford. If you cannot get it fixed due to cost, then you'll have to sell or park it up and save. Neither are ideal (although not driving it over salty roads is probably a good thing anyway!). Selling now would be the most expensive, but it would get you out of the problem.
However, if the gearbox had been fine, I would have sorted the issues and kept it as it was a fantastic car. I think the values are also rising, as I paid £17k for one and when I looked a short while back there were none at that price point except very high mileage ones.
It depends what you can afford. If you cannot get it fixed due to cost, then you'll have to sell or park it up and save. Neither are ideal (although not driving it over salty roads is probably a good thing anyway!). Selling now would be the most expensive, but it would get you out of the problem.
mr2turbogts said:
Car is going into the garage tomorrow to hopefully figure out what that noise is.
In the meantime I am sitting here wondering what to do if it is a big bill item, do I get it all fixed or just cut my losses and let it go cheap, as still need to sort the cat out circa 1k and the bodywork is not in the best shape (had intention of tidying up but so far bills are stacking up so probs won t)
Is “the garage” a specialist in Jags of that era?In the meantime I am sitting here wondering what to do if it is a big bill item, do I get it all fixed or just cut my losses and let it go cheap, as still need to sort the cat out circa 1k and the bodywork is not in the best shape (had intention of tidying up but so far bills are stacking up so probs won t)
We recently had BIL’s XKR recommissioned after being stood for a decade +.
Pukka classic car specialist suggested the cost would be akin to multiple body parts, first born son, and a ride on the wife.
Local garage didn’t really seem to know where to start.
Jaguar specialist understood the limited value of these cars and the bill was reasonable: did what needed to be done to a proper standard but knew that nobody was going to pay for a concours restoration so didn’t take things to the extreme or do stuff that didn’t need to be done.
I was really excited opening this expecting puppy pics and happiness.
Disappointed to see it s full of sadness and misery.
For the record. I ve seen a number of these on that sort of mileage for somewhere between £5k-£8k (Not Autotrader) So I think if anything you ve massively overpaid.
Edit: Ignore me fully. I completely misread the post and thought it was an XF.
Disappointed to see it s full of sadness and misery.
For the record. I ve seen a number of these on that sort of mileage for somewhere between £5k-£8k (Not Autotrader) So I think if anything you ve massively overpaid.
Edit: Ignore me fully. I completely misread the post and thought it was an XF.
Edited by PovertyPrince on Monday 15th December 07:28
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