Drivers wrongly fined for speeding
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70rk80p9eqo
So mistakes have been happening since 2021 and to correct it they'll refund the fines and clear any points.
I doubt this will fly as premiums will have gone up too, how will they compensate for that?
So mistakes have been happening since 2021 and to correct it they'll refund the fines and clear any points.
I doubt this will fly as premiums will have gone up too, how will they compensate for that?
Edited by Inbox on Tuesday 16th December 08:21
's trick.Inbox said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70rk80p9eqo
I doubt this will fly as premiums will have gone up too, how will they compensate for that?
Needs to be a national compensation inquiry imo, people have been struggling with the cost of living for a few years and extra cost on their car insurance (sometimes the only viable travel option for people/journeys) wouldn't have helped.I doubt this will fly as premiums will have gone up too, how will they compensate for that?
Edited by Inbox on Tuesday 16th December 08:21
The news articles are quite confusing….The PH consensus on this (from past threads) suggests that those caught receive a photo of their car AND one of the gantry taken simultaneously. If (as the articles I have read seem to imply), a (speed) camera delay missed a raising of the limit, then the gantry picture would prove the fault and a prosecution couldn’t take place.
The real story must be that the (speed) camera is SUPPOSED to have a delay, so that anyone passing under or very close to the gantry during a change is not caught by a lowered limit that they know nothing about. Presumably that delay has been judged to be too short - maybe OK if a 70 changes to a 60 but not long enough if a 50 goes to a 40?
The real story must be that the (speed) camera is SUPPOSED to have a delay, so that anyone passing under or very close to the gantry during a change is not caught by a lowered limit that they know nothing about. Presumably that delay has been judged to be too short - maybe OK if a 70 changes to a 60 but not long enough if a 50 goes to a 40?
I'm sure this predates 2021, too.
In 2019, I got a ticket for 48 in a 40 on the M25, but I swear blind that, as I passed under the gantry, the last visible number was 50. The camera flashed and I assumed it was for the bloke who was overtaking me at the time. Nope - 5 days later, the NIP arrived.
The next gantry showed 40, so the limit had changed, but I'm certain in my own mind that no 'grace period' had been applied.
In 2019, I got a ticket for 48 in a 40 on the M25, but I swear blind that, as I passed under the gantry, the last visible number was 50. The camera flashed and I assumed it was for the bloke who was overtaking me at the time. Nope - 5 days later, the NIP arrived.
The next gantry showed 40, so the limit had changed, but I'm certain in my own mind that no 'grace period' had been applied.
wazztie16 said:
Needs to be a national compensation inquiry imo, people have been struggling with the cost of living for a few years and extra cost on their car insurance (sometimes the only viable travel option for people/journeys) wouldn't have helped.
Meh that'll never happen in <5yrs with ~£100M blown on it with all the committee meetings, luvvie consultants and the result will be "tough luck you shouldn't have been speeding in the first place"!andyb28 said:
Inbox said:
I doubt this will fly as premiums will have gone up too, how will they compensate for that?
Gosh, could you imagine if someone already had 9 points, then lost their licence and maybe their job too. Gonna see some compo face photos in the news soon.
Prosecuting based on false information, that sounds really familiar.
Post Office anyone!
As someone said that they aren’t using any of the cameras. I imagine this is the tip of an iceberg, you’ll probably find in a couple of months that the idea of using two radars to confirm speed rather than radar and white painted lines has been found to have some issues as well….
Anyone know of any legal case where someone has successfully challenged the cameras? Will probably give an idea if it just a case of timing of the screen change or a the lawyer initiated a broader challenge to the cameras?
Anyone know of any legal case where someone has successfully challenged the cameras? Will probably give an idea if it just a case of timing of the screen change or a the lawyer initiated a broader challenge to the cameras?
Inbox said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70rk80p9eqo
So mistakes have been happening since 2021 and to correct it they'll refund the fines and clear any points.
I doubt this will fly as premiums will have gone up too, how will they compensate for that?
Licenses lost. Jobs lost etc as well....So mistakes have been happening since 2021 and to correct it they'll refund the fines and clear any points.
I doubt this will fly as premiums will have gone up too, how will they compensate for that?
Edited by Inbox on Tuesday 16th December 08:21
Tam_Mullen said:
There was a thread on here recently where someone claimed they were caught speeding despite doing the speed shown on the gantry as well weren't they.
Yup and the camera showed 1hr 24m or something like that since limit change. Think he might finally have his angle to challenge!Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff