Leicester Square knife attack
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s1962a

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https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/leicester-sq...

Why are we letting people with mental health illnesses into the country? That girl was lucky to survive this attack

Mrr T

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285 months

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s1962a said:
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/leicester-sq...

Why are we letting people with mental health illnesses into the country? That girl was lucky to survive this attack
How do you plan to stop them?

s1962a

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Mrr T said:
How do you plan to stop them?
I'll assume this is a serious question.

article said:
He had been admitted to hospital three times in Romania between May 2022 and February 2023 for treatment to his mental health.
Next time he enters the country this gets flagged up and UK mental health services determine whether he's fit to be let into the country.

John145

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Do we do any background checks before letting people into this country? Nope.

If background checks were done would a history of being a dangerous animal be grounds for getting someone deported? Nope.

For the past 20+ years have we had a government or state institution that cares? Nope.

Will this happen again and again? Yes.

Mrr T

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s1962a said:
Mrr T said:
How do you plan to stop them?
I'll assume this is a serious question.

article said:
He had been admitted to hospital three times in Romania between May 2022 and February 2023 for treatment to his mental health.
Next time he enters the country this gets flagged up and UK mental health services determine whether he's fit to be let into the country.
Its a serious question. So how does his mental health get flagged up. Oddly enough, just like in the UK, health records in Romania are confidential.

Edited by Mrr T on Tuesday 16th December 13:47

s1962a

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John145 said:
Do we do any background checks before letting people into this country? Nope.

If background checks were done would a history of being a dangerous animal be grounds for getting someone deported? Nope.

For the past 20+ years have we had a government or state institution that cares? Nope.

Will this happen again and again? Yes.
That is shocking.

Mortarboard

11,299 posts

75 months

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s1962a said:
John145 said:
Do we do any background checks before letting people into this country? Nope.

If background checks were done would a history of being a dangerous animal be grounds for getting someone deported? Nope.

For the past 20+ years have we had a government or state institution that cares? Nope.

Will this happen again and again? Yes.
That is shocking.
Have you ever traveled abroad?

Ever had a background check before you were let in?

M.

s1962a

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Mortarboard said:
s1962a said:
John145 said:
Do we do any background checks before letting people into this country? Nope.

If background checks were done would a history of being a dangerous animal be grounds for getting someone deported? Nope.

For the past 20+ years have we had a government or state institution that cares? Nope.

Will this happen again and again? Yes.
That is shocking.
Have you ever traveled abroad?

Ever had a background check before you were let in?

M.
Yeah I have

Mortarboard

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s1962a said:
Yeah I have
Where?

Did it include a mental health assessment?

Because im going to call bks on that.

M.

s1962a

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I got this from google AI, which explains why there probably weren't any checks done on him when he entered the country

Google AI said:
Nationality: Pintaru is a Romanian national.

Immigration Status: He was a migrant in the UK. Discussions on Reddit clarify that as a citizen of an EU country, he had the right to live and work in the UK before Brexit rule changes fully took effect or had a settled status. He was not a refugee or an illegal immigrant.

s1962a

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Mortarboard said:
s1962a said:
Yeah I have
Where?

Did it include a mental health assessment?

Because im going to call bks on that.

M.
You asked about background checks, not mental health assessments. I have 2 examples

Dubai - was held for about an hour or so as someone with a similar name was wanted

USA - held for 6 hours once

My point is that if we should be checking who we let into the country.

Mrr T

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John145 said:
Do we do any background checks before letting people into this country? Nope.

If background checks were done would a history of being a dangerous animal be grounds for getting someone deported? Nope.

For the past 20+ years have we had a government or state institution that cares? Nope.

Will this happen again and again? Yes.
Not sure which country you are referring to but it cannot be the UK. If you are a visa national you have to provide a lot of back ground information . I agree it's mainly financial rather than medical.

How do you do back ground checks on medical information which is confidential?

s1962a

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Mrr T said:
Not sure which country you are referring to but it cannot be the UK. If you are a visa national you have to provide a lot of back ground information . I agree it's mainly financial rather than medical.

How do you do back ground checks on medical information which is confidential?
Seems like this lunatic had free entry to the country as he's a Romanian national. No checks at all apparently.

tangerine_sedge

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Also PH - I demand all the services!

PH - How dare the state infringe my civil liberties!
Also PH - Why can't the state know everything about everybody?



Mortarboard

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s1962a said:
Mortarboard said:
s1962a said:
Yeah I have
Where?

Did it include a mental health assessment?

Because im going to call bks on that.

M.
You asked about background checks, not mental health assessments. I have 2 examples

Dubai - was held for about an hour or so as someone with a similar name was wanted

USA - held for 6 hours once

My point is that if we should be checking who we let into the country.
In a thread about mental health and people being let into countries.
I wasn't asking if they checked your bag for contraband

And neither of your examples are background checks.

M.

s1962a

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Mortarboard said:
In a thread about mental health and people being let into countries.
I wasn't asking if they checked your bag for contraband

And neither of your examples are background checks.

M.
Thats fair.

What is your suggestion on stopping people with mental health conditions and a potential danger to our country being let in?

Mrr T

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s1962a said:
Mrr T said:
Not sure which country you are referring to but it cannot be the UK. If you are a visa national you have to provide a lot of back ground information . I agree it's mainly financial rather than medical.

How do you do back ground checks on medical information which is confidential?
Seems like this lunatic had free entry to the country as he's a Romanian national. No checks at all apparently.
I am sure his passport was checked. Are you suggesting the UK stop visa free travel. If we do most countries will then impose the same restrictions on UK visitors. Applying for a visa and providing signed medical certificates will make foreign holidays a lot more fun.

119

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And i think this incident is a fking good reason why checks should be reformed.

We don't need any more utter scum in the country. We have enough of our own.


E63eeeeee...

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s1962a said:
John145 said:
Do we do any background checks before letting people into this country? Nope.

If background checks were done would a history of being a dangerous animal be grounds for getting someone deported? Nope.

For the past 20+ years have we had a government or state institution that cares? Nope.

Will this happen again and again? Yes.
That is shocking.
It's also largely bks. But as mentioned already, checking for prior treatment for mental health issues isn't included, not least because of course most people who have mental health issues don't attack anyone.

Police State

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Mrr T said:
John145 said:
Do we do any background checks before letting people into this country? Nope.

If background checks were done would a history of being a dangerous animal be grounds for getting someone deported? Nope.

For the past 20+ years have we had a government or state institution that cares? Nope.

Will this happen again and again? Yes.
Not sure which country you are referring to but it cannot be the UK. If you are a visa national you have to provide a lot of back ground information . I agree it's mainly financial rather than medical.

How do you do back ground checks on medical information which is confidential?
You don't, you seperate the two. You do background checks on mental health. No access to mental health records, no entry.

Would you be ok with that?