RE: Official: EU plan to ban combustion engines binned
RE: Official: EU plan to ban combustion engines binned
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Official: EU plan to ban combustion engines binned

After 'intense dialogue', European Commission sees the light...


Last week we had the heads up, today we get confirmation: the EU has yielded to intense pressure and will officially seek to reverse course on its plan to effectively ban the sale of combustion engines from 2035 onwards. Assuming it’s endorsed by the European parliament, the revision to its earlier law would mean that OEMs no longer have to reduce CO2 emissions by 100 per cent, but rather 90 per cent of their 2021 levels. 

Clearly, this is not intended to herald a return to naturally aspirated V10s en masse, but it does purposefully leave the regulatory door ajar for a new generation of plug-in hybrids, mild hybrids and range extenders - all considered a far more palatable (and therefore realistic) route to electrification by European carmakers. The latter were joined in their lobbying efforts by the governments of Germany and Italy, both with considerable interest in securing a stay of execution for combustion engines. 

‘From 2035 onwards, carmakers will need to comply with a 90 per cent tailpipe emissions reduction target, while the remaining 10 per cent emissions will need to be compensated through the use of low-carbon steel Made in the Union, or from e-fuels and biofuels,’ notes the official statement. The European Commission has also sought to incentivise ‘small, affordable’ EVs with the introduction of ‘super credits’ for manufacturers alongside a ‘banking & borrowing’ system to meet targets in 2030-32. 

The European Commission was due to revise its rule change next year, but mounting criticism of the phase-out reached fever pitch in the face of faltering demand for EVs and disgruntlement over high prices - both made worse by a sharp rise in cheaper Chinese imports. By last Friday, relaxation of the criteria seemed inevitable: “The reality is that there will still be millions of combustion engine-based cars around the world in 2035, 2040 and 2050,” remarked the German Chancellor, Friedrich Merz. 

Apparently less concerned with reality, so far at any rate, is the UK government, which has suggested that it would not dilute its own plans to introduce an outright ban on petrol and diesel engines in ten years. Its reticence, predictably enough, was reflected in the shrill opposition of environmental groups, unconvinced of the wider business case highlighted by OEMs and critical of the perceived backward step in the EU’s leadership of the climate change agenda. 

When originally enacted, the policy was considered a tentpole feature of the Green Deal - yet its intent was eroded almost immediately, with prospective exemptions for CO2-neutral synthetic fuels introduced at the last minute. Some European countries, France prominent among them, have maintained support for the proposed end to combustion, pointing to a 26 per cent increase in the sale of EVs in 2025. But the pace of change, mostly driven by cheaper-to-buy models, has not kept pace with expectations and no longer seems aligned with the global market. 

In the same week as the EU’s announcement, Ford confirmed that it will cancel plans to build a number of large, high-profile EVs - not least the battery-powered version of its best-selling F-150 pickup. The problem? “Lower-than-expected demand, high costs and regulatory changes,” according to its chief executive. The change in strategy is expected to cost Ford as much as £14.6bn.

Even OEMs committed to long-term change have become reflective on the issue. ‘‘The future is electric," noted VW chief exec, Thomas Schäfer. ‘‘On the way there, you need a bit more flexibility to make sure that you can deliver what customers actually want.” The EU, it seems, has come sharply around to that way of thinking...


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scottmelvin96

Original Poster:

19 posts

166 months

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About time.

GingerMunky

1,259 posts

277 months

Tuesday
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Wow, politicians don't wan the backlash from a wave of redundancies across Europe, and climate change goes out the window. Classic political kick the can down the road.

Joscal

2,515 posts

220 months

Tuesday
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They’ll have to put tariffs on Chinese cars as well, it won’t solve the problem.

Noserider5

83 posts

146 months

Tuesday
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Nooooooo my whole business model has been thwarted, I have speculatively been accumilating pre ADAS Euro 6 V8, V10 & V12, anyone want to buy a V10 Touareg frown

CH80

298 posts

17 months

Tuesday
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I wonder whether the UK Government will be as enlightened?

ScoobyChris

2,237 posts

222 months

Tuesday
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Is it going to make a massive difference to the direction the industry is going - feels like it's just buying a bit more time?

"Assuming it’s endorsed by the European parliament, the revision to its earlier law would mean that OEMs no longer have to reduce CO2 emissions by 100 per cent, but rather 90 per cent of their 2021 levels."


Yahonza

3,111 posts

50 months

Tuesday
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I like the idea about incentivising small EV's, as an obvious way forward instead of the current range of overweight battery operated slingshots.
Interesting to see how manufacturers will meet / realise the 90% / 10% target though - especially the part about European steel and biofuels.
Will the UK follow, decisions, decisions.

Leftfootwonder

1,466 posts

78 months

Tuesday
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90% is still a significant target so its far from a u-turn and, lets be honest, with all this ADAS crap, new cars are still pretty undesirable anyway. I can't see this saving the European Industry personally. Just extended its life support, Shirley.

LRDefender

371 posts

28 months

Tuesday
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In the E.U. we trust..!!!

Sporky

9,619 posts

84 months

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Intense pressure from the oil and gas lobbyists no doubt. Money is, of course, more important.

Joscal

2,515 posts

220 months

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ScoobyChris said:
Is it going to make a massive difference to the direction the industry is going - feels like it's just buying a bit more time?

"Assuming it s endorsed by the European parliament, the revision to its earlier law would mean that OEMs no longer have to reduce CO2 emissions by 100 per cent, but rather 90 per cent of their 2021 levels."
Really don’t think it will make much difference it looks a bit like our car industry in the 70’s to me.

Hopefully I’m wrong with so many jobs at stake though.

Black S2K

1,770 posts

269 months

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Well, the sooner these imbeciles destroy the West, the sooner it recovers I suppose.

Too little TFL.

spanner10

227 posts

67 months

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CH80 said:
I wonder whether the UK Government will be as enlightened?
I rather doubt it sadly , it's that tool Milliband

uktrailmonster

8,497 posts

220 months

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ScoobyChris said:
Is it going to make a massive difference to the direction the industry is going - feels like it's just buying a bit more time?

"Assuming it s endorsed by the European parliament, the revision to its earlier law would mean that OEMs no longer have to reduce CO2 emissions by 100 per cent, but rather 90 per cent of their 2021 levels."
I think the most significant effect will be an immediate drop in consumer take-up of EVs. As with the 3 p/mile EV road tax, it will put people off making the switch to EVs. Most people will just think the ICE sales ban has been completely scrapped.


Sporky

9,619 posts

84 months

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Thisll3 be another huge boost to the Chinese.

burman

361 posts

233 months

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Where did the ten years for the UK come from in the article, as far as I know Mad Ed is still at 2030!!
A mere 4 years away, what an utter plonker he is.

Sporky

9,619 posts

84 months

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burman said:
Where did the ten years for the UK come from in the article, as far as I know Mad Ed is still at 2030!!
A mere 4 years away, what an utter plonker he is.
Wasn't this a Tory plan?

Kawasaki2000

95 posts

11 months

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Perplexed how this helps EU car manufacturing, if the EV switch is killing jobs. Granted its AI but chat GPT estimates thay under this plan 80% of cars are EV, 12% phev and 8% pure combustion.

Over the whole of Europe 8% is a big number but it's still a massive swing to EV. Its all well and good saying they can water it down later, we're getting the clio a year later because government gave mixed messages.

Im not saying the 90% should stay but picking a number that will be changed in 18 months time is a recipe for uncertainty. If that's the game.

I would have thought that of they were serious, a complete about turn or even a 60/70% target would have been needed

Kawasaki2000

95 posts

11 months

Tuesday
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burman said:
Where did the ten years for the UK come from in the article, as far as I know Mad Ed is still at 2030!!
A mere 4 years away, what an utter plonker he is.
2030 is non hybrid. 2030-2035 hybrid will be allowed it think thats where the confusion has come from.

Also its driven by the transport secretary. I'd imagine he's not opposed to it either.

GTEYE

2,329 posts

230 months

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burman said:
Where did the ten years for the UK come from in the article, as far as I know Mad Ed is still at 2030!!
A mere 4 years away, what an utter plonker he is.
Isn’t Brexit the gift that keeps on giving. To think that the EU will be okay but here in the UK “we’ve taken back control”!

Great!