Picked up my Ioniq 5 N
Discussion
Already in love with this car oh my days!!!
I have not really had a modern car before so all the gizmos, tech (android auto etc) are really fantastic - enjoy the smart cruise control, blind spot cameras etc but...
jees it drives great. At times it handles like a french hatchback with an LSD on the front, it really disguise its weight and ive been driving it around with the simuilated DCT non stop
One of the things I still cant get used to is the lack of guilt - I am not talking about smug EV credentials, I dont care about that and wouldnt have bought one if the tax benefits werent so good, I mean that you can "rev" the pants off it and change down gear to your hearts content and not worry about the engine being stressed, not warmed up, exploding etc
The only thing that I miss compared to my F10 M5 is that the comfort of the seats and suspension is a long way off, but hey it cant do everything.
Mightily impressed
I have not really had a modern car before so all the gizmos, tech (android auto etc) are really fantastic - enjoy the smart cruise control, blind spot cameras etc but...
jees it drives great. At times it handles like a french hatchback with an LSD on the front, it really disguise its weight and ive been driving it around with the simuilated DCT non stop
One of the things I still cant get used to is the lack of guilt - I am not talking about smug EV credentials, I dont care about that and wouldnt have bought one if the tax benefits werent so good, I mean that you can "rev" the pants off it and change down gear to your hearts content and not worry about the engine being stressed, not warmed up, exploding etc
The only thing that I miss compared to my F10 M5 is that the comfort of the seats and suspension is a long way off, but hey it cant do everything.
Mightily impressed
Can I ask about the seats? Are they going to be too narrow for a large chap? I was put off the ev6 gt for that reason but not sure if the Ionia 5N is better.
Do you know if they are the same as in the ev6?
I had googled and one search result says they are good for broader drivers, but I don’t know if it’s nonsense
Do you know if they are the same as in the ev6?
I had googled and one search result says they are good for broader drivers, but I don’t know if it’s nonsense
How would you rate the two cars from a fun perspective?
My personal experience is that I can sometimes have more 'pure' fun in a performance ICE car than the EV, but that fun comes at a high cost (single digit MPG...) and it's relatively rare you can boot an ICE car without looking/sounding like a nob, but a performance EV can be driven hard pretty much every day/trip without drawing attention and without a significant extra cost.
I think an overlooked aspect of what makes a car 'fun', is how often you can actually use a cars performance. This is why old hot hatches are fun, because they're not actually all that fast or expensive to run so you can enjoy ragging them a bit daily. EV's obviously can be very fast, but also they have very high levels of traction and ease of use, making them also a car that can be enjoyed fully, whenever.
My personal experience is that I can sometimes have more 'pure' fun in a performance ICE car than the EV, but that fun comes at a high cost (single digit MPG...) and it's relatively rare you can boot an ICE car without looking/sounding like a nob, but a performance EV can be driven hard pretty much every day/trip without drawing attention and without a significant extra cost.
I think an overlooked aspect of what makes a car 'fun', is how often you can actually use a cars performance. This is why old hot hatches are fun, because they're not actually all that fast or expensive to run so you can enjoy ragging them a bit daily. EV's obviously can be very fast, but also they have very high levels of traction and ease of use, making them also a car that can be enjoyed fully, whenever.
F10 M5 seats are incredibly comfortable, 5N are merely very good. Lack of electric adjustment is the only real downside imo.
It’s such a good car, 160 miles of motorway range isn’t great in the winter but at 2.5KWH/mile it works out at about £18 to cover the same distance as the M5 which would be nearly £140 in 99 RON.
If you get one in soultronic orange it’s a proper M car colour too b
It’s got all the toys, loads of space, incredible stereo and mental performance. I love it.
It’s such a good car, 160 miles of motorway range isn’t great in the winter but at 2.5KWH/mile it works out at about £18 to cover the same distance as the M5 which would be nearly £140 in 99 RON.
If you get one in soultronic orange it’s a proper M car colour too b
It’s got all the toys, loads of space, incredible stereo and mental performance. I love it.
oop north said:
Can I ask about the seats? Are they going to be too narrow for a large chap? I was put off the ev6 gt for that reason but not sure if the Ionia 5N is better.
Do you know if they are the same as in the ev6?
I had googled and one search result says they are good for broader drivers, but I don t know if it s nonsense
I had a go in a 5N at a recent Palmersport day I did. I’m on the larger side of things at 6’2” and just under 18st, and found the seats to be plenty big enough. Certainly wider than those in my wife’s Golf R or the Born she had before that. Do you know if they are the same as in the ev6?
I had googled and one search result says they are good for broader drivers, but I don t know if it s nonsense
Rob747 said:
It s such a good car, 160 miles of motorway range isn t great in the winter but at 2.5KWH/mile it works out at about £18 to cover the same distance as the M5 which would be nearly £140 in 99 RON.
I like the look of the 5N, but the relative small battery means it's essentially got the same range as our current 8+ years old Tesla with 96k miles on the clock. For all the talk about progress been made with EV technology I cannot bring my self to swap out of a near decade old EV into a brand new one that essentially offers the same range!!With many brands now putting in 100kWh+ of usable battery (250 miles range for same efficiency), I hope Hyundai sticks in a bigger battery for when ever the refresh of the N5 is due.
gangzoom said:
Rob747 said:
It s such a good car, 160 miles of motorway range isn t great in the winter but at 2.5KWH/mile it works out at about £18 to cover the same distance as the M5 which would be nearly £140 in 99 RON.
I like the look of the 5N, but the relative small battery means it's essentially got the same range as our current 8+ years old Tesla with 96k miles on the clock. For all the talk about progress been made with EV technology I cannot bring my self to swap out of a near decade old EV into a brand new one that essentially offers the same range!!With many brands now putting in 100kWh+ of usable battery (250 miles range for same efficiency), I hope Hyundai sticks in a bigger battery for when ever the refresh of the N5 is due.
On the other hand... If someone posted back in the day to say how happy they were with their 650hp car... It was judged on what it was and what it did, nobody complained that the mpg wasn't very good - because obviously, it would be terrible.
Does a high performance EV need to be judged in terms of range?
gangzoom said:
I like the look of the 5N, but the relative small battery means it's essentially got the same range as our current 8+ years old Tesla with 96k miles on the clock. For all the talk about progress been made with EV technology I cannot bring my self to swap out of a near decade old EV into a brand new one that essentially offers the same range!!
With many brands now putting in 100kWh+ of usable battery (250 miles range for same efficiency), I hope Hyundai sticks in a bigger battery for when ever the refresh of the N5 is due.
Range ? So what it drives like a supercar.With many brands now putting in 100kWh+ of usable battery (250 miles range for same efficiency), I hope Hyundai sticks in a bigger battery for when ever the refresh of the N5 is due.
Do you think people think like you going from a 535d to an M5?
TheDeuce said:
gangzoom said:
Rob747 said:
It s such a good car, 160 miles of motorway range isn t great in the winter but at 2.5KWH/mile it works out at about £18 to cover the same distance as the M5 which would be nearly £140 in 99 RON.
I like the look of the 5N, but the relative small battery means it's essentially got the same range as our current 8+ years old Tesla with 96k miles on the clock. For all the talk about progress been made with EV technology I cannot bring my self to swap out of a near decade old EV into a brand new one that essentially offers the same range!!With many brands now putting in 100kWh+ of usable battery (250 miles range for same efficiency), I hope Hyundai sticks in a bigger battery for when ever the refresh of the N5 is due.
On the other hand... If someone posted back in the day to say how happy they were with their 650hp car... It was judged on what it was and what it did, nobody complained that the mpg wasn't very good - because obviously, it would be terrible.
Does a high performance EV need to be judged in terms of range?
This is a curiously British trait I think.
In most of the world a nice car is simply appreciated and celebrated by others. In Britain, my experience is that for every person that says something nice, there's another person that finds a way to acknowledge the car whilst slipping in some sort of criticism of it!
"That's lovely, but you must see a lot of petrol stations..."
"How fast is it? Oh... I bet your tyres don't last long"
Silly things said by people that can't afford to have fun
In most of the world a nice car is simply appreciated and celebrated by others. In Britain, my experience is that for every person that says something nice, there's another person that finds a way to acknowledge the car whilst slipping in some sort of criticism of it!
"That's lovely, but you must see a lot of petrol stations..."
"How fast is it? Oh... I bet your tyres don't last long"
Silly things said by people that can't afford to have fun
cerb4.5lee said:
TheDeuce said:
gangzoom said:
Rob747 said:
It s such a good car, 160 miles of motorway range isn t great in the winter but at 2.5KWH/mile it works out at about £18 to cover the same distance as the M5 which would be nearly £140 in 99 RON.
I like the look of the 5N, but the relative small battery means it's essentially got the same range as our current 8+ years old Tesla with 96k miles on the clock. For all the talk about progress been made with EV technology I cannot bring my self to swap out of a near decade old EV into a brand new one that essentially offers the same range!!With many brands now putting in 100kWh+ of usable battery (250 miles range for same efficiency), I hope Hyundai sticks in a bigger battery for when ever the refresh of the N5 is due.
On the other hand... If someone posted back in the day to say how happy they were with their 650hp car... It was judged on what it was and what it did, nobody complained that the mpg wasn't very good - because obviously, it would be terrible.
Does a high performance EV need to be judged in terms of range?
Plainly anyone that can afford the 650hp car could also afford a different car with more focus on range if they so desired - but they didn't, they've already had that conversation with themselves and decided they don't care in the least
gangzoom said:
Rob747 said:
It s such a good car, 160 miles of motorway range isn t great in the winter but at 2.5KWH/mile it works out at about £18 to cover the same distance as the M5 which would be nearly £140 in 99 RON.
I like the look of the 5N, but the relative small battery means it's essentially got the same range as our current 8+ years old Tesla with 96k miles on the clock. For all the talk about progress been made with EV technology I cannot bring my self to swap out of a near decade old EV into a brand new one that essentially offers the same range!!With many brands now putting in 100kWh+ of usable battery (250 miles range for same efficiency), I hope Hyundai sticks in a bigger battery for when ever the refresh of the N5 is due.
B5mike said:
Looking forward to seeing what BMW do with the upcoming i3.
I suspect the 'Hot' version of the BMW i cars coming will have 100kWh+ usable batteries. It doesn't matter how you play with the numbers, an extra 20kWh of usable battery especially in winter is more than helpful. I'm surprised in a decade battery size of EVs have really remained static.gangzoom said:
B5mike said:
Looking forward to seeing what BMW do with the upcoming i3.
I suspect the 'Hot' version of the BMW i cars coming will have 100kWh+ usable batteries. It doesn't matter how you play with the numbers, an extra 20kWh of usable battery especially in winter is more than helpful. I'm surprised in a decade battery size of EVs have really remained static.plfrench said:
I had a go in a 5N at a recent Palmersport day I did. I m on the larger side of things at 6 2 and just under 18st, and found the seats to be plenty big enough. Certainly wider than those in my wife s Golf R or the Born she had before that.
I have noted this and will endeavour to agree with everything you say from now on 
TX.
PLFrench
Super interested in how it was at Bedford - ive been there 3 or 4 times in my clio 182 - its super flat which Im sure slightly reduces how much I can imagine you notice the weight of the 5N (Brands Hatch might be a different expereince!!) but how was it? Does that mean they have superchargers on site now and did you get a feel for how many laps it could do before a recharge?
how did the brakes do?
Super interested in how it was at Bedford - ive been there 3 or 4 times in my clio 182 - its super flat which Im sure slightly reduces how much I can imagine you notice the weight of the 5N (Brands Hatch might be a different expereince!!) but how was it? Does that mean they have superchargers on site now and did you get a feel for how many laps it could do before a recharge?
how did the brakes do?
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