Two insurance policies on same car - any potential issues?
Two insurance policies on same car - any potential issues?
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46,338 posts

216 months

Yesterday (14:19)
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One of my kids is (finally) learning to drive and has asked if he can be insured on his mum's car.

The current policy is with SAGA and they have declined to add him to her policy for unknown reasons.

is there any reason why he couldn't or shouldn't get his own standalone policy?

ConnectionError

2,174 posts

89 months

Yesterday (14:21)
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I think Marmalade offer this

there are specific policies around.

When my son was learning to drive I look one out so he could have L plates on my Porsche

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,542 posts

255 months

Yesterday (14:25)
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I'm not an expert (in anything hehe)

But, isn't a fundamental of insurance that you must have an insurable interest in the thing you insure?

That is to say have a financial stake in the car?

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,542 posts

255 months

Yesterday (14:26)
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...but the poster above has found a way so ignore me hehe

Rangeroverer

8 posts

5 months

Yesterday (14:58)
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Hi, added my bil to my car so he could drive it when visiting from states. No financial interest, just a named driver.

simon_harris

2,382 posts

54 months

Yesterday (15:02)
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
I'm not an expert (in anything hehe)

But, isn't a fundamental of insurance that you must have an insurable interest in the thing you insure?

That is to say have a financial stake in the car?
for completeness when insuring *yourself* on a car you are insuring against potential loss for others not just the value of the car so it is not quite the same. Even if you go third party only you aren't even insuring the car then.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,542 posts

255 months

Yesterday (15:02)
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Rangeroverer said:
Hi, added my bil to my car so he could drive it when visiting from states. No financial interest, just a named driver.
OP can't add a named driver, hence the question re separate policy. Keep up at the back hehe

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Yesterday (15:03)
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simon_harris said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
I'm not an expert (in anything hehe)

But, isn't a fundamental of insurance that you must have an insurable interest in the thing you insure?

That is to say have a financial stake in the car?
for completeness when insuring *yourself* on a car you are insuring against potential loss for others not just the value of the car so it is not quite the same. Even if you go third party only you aren't even insuring the car then.
Fair point thumbup

outnumbered

4,732 posts

254 months

Yesterday (15:07)
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We used Marmalade in this situation. The learner has his/her own policy that allows them to drive the car while being supervised. It was surprisingly cheap. It gets expensive when they pass smile

Richard-390a0

3,148 posts

111 months

Yesterday (15:09)
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AI Overview -
Yes, you can have two insurance policies on one car, and it's not illegal, but it's usually unnecessary and complicates claims; you can't claim double the payout for the same loss (that's fraud), and insurers share data to prevent it, often splitting claims through a "contribution clause," making payouts slower and costlier, so it's generally best avoided unless for specific situations like adding a high-risk learner driver with a separate, temporary policy.

Rangeroverer

8 posts

5 months

Yesterday (15:10)
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I added my bill to my car when he was over on holiday. No financial interest, just a named driver.

alscar

7,516 posts

233 months

Yesterday (15:14)
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Try Howdens ( the old A Plan ) or Marmalade as suggested if you need to go the separate policy route.
Sagas insurer underwriting strategy is obviously geared around drivers of a certain age so not that surprised they won’t quote for a learner being added.

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Original Poster:

46,338 posts

216 months

Yesterday (15:24)
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
I'm not an expert (in anything hehe)

But, isn't a fundamental of insurance that you must have an insurable interest in the thing you insure?

That is to say have a financial stake in the car?
He's definitely got an insurable interest. I've told him he'll be paying for a new clutch! biggrin

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46,338 posts

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Yesterday (15:25)
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Rangeroverer said:
Hi, added my bil to my car so he could drive it when visiting from states. No financial interest, just a named driver.
OP can't add a named driver, hence the question re separate policy. Keep up at the back hehe
Indeed smile

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Yesterday (15:28)
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Countdown said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
I'm not an expert (in anything hehe)

But, isn't a fundamental of insurance that you must have an insurable interest in the thing you insure?

That is to say have a financial stake in the car?
He's definitely got an insurable interest. I've told him he'll be paying for a new clutch! biggrin
hehe

Aretnap

1,910 posts

171 months

Yesterday (15:32)
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
I'm not an expert (in anything hehe)

But, isn't a fundamental of insurance that you must have an insurable interest in the thing you insure?

That is to say have a financial stake in the car?
You have an insurable interest in the car if you will be required to pay for any damage you cause while driving it. So it depends how forgiving Dad is, I guess!

As someone has mentioned, you definitely have an insurable interest in your liabilities to other people which might arise out of your use of the car, which is the only thing that you are legally required to have insurance to cover.

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Original Poster:

46,338 posts

216 months

Yesterday (15:38)
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Aretnap said:
You have an insurable interest in the car if you will be required to pay for any damage you cause while driving it. So it depends how forgiving Dad is, I guess!
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boyse7en

7,856 posts

185 months

Yesterday (15:40)
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I got a 3 month learner policy from Adrian Flux when daughter was learning to drive. It was pretty cheap, the real cost comes once they pass.

As Saga insurance is specifically for the over-50s, it's not surprising that they declined to cover a 17-year-old.

reggie747

253 posts

147 months

Yesterday (16:12)
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ConnectionError said:
When my son was learning to drive I look one out so he could have L plates on my Porsche
"Cos he needed them or 'cos you thought it looked good ?
Yesterday (16:16)
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Countdown said:
One of my kids is (finally) learning to drive and has asked if he can be insured on his mum's car.

The current policy is with SAGA and they have declined to add him to her policy for unknown reasons.

is there any reason why he couldn't or shouldn't get his own standalone policy?
Try Veygo, though price wise they're more geared towards ad-hoc (the odd hour here, two hours there). One of my pupils covered his own car for two months using Veygo, and I've used them plenty of times too.

Veygo and Marmalade are both designed to be used where the main policyholder wants to protect against the risk of a claim whilst someone is learning to drive in that car, so no issues having the SAGA policy and then having the Veygo/Marmalade policy for the learner