RE: Remember when Lotus tried to make us happy?
RE: Remember when Lotus tried to make us happy?
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Remember when Lotus tried to make us happy?

There is a near-perfect 340R for sale. Has 1998 ever seemed so distant?


While it can seem like barely a week goes by without some new restomod vapourware emerging, the Encor S1 does look like something very special indeed. For one, it’s great to be talking about the Lotus Esprit again, a classic sports car that really doesn’t get the love it deserves, and everything going into the project sounds like it’ll make great use of the platform. 

It also looks spectacular, surely a prerequisite of any reimagined sports car worth its salt. But then it is also going to be half a million quid. One to admire from a distance, perhaps. And anyway, if you want a mid-engined Lotus sports car that looks like it’s from another planet and promises to be even better to drive than the car it’s built from, what about a 340R? This is going to draw even more gawps, surely, than the Encor - unless they build an amphibious one… 

The 340R came about when Lotus collaborated with Autocar of all people to create an even lighter, even more exciting Elise. Like the rest of us, the nation's most venerable car magazine had been fond of the Elise ever since its introduction; having driven a good few, they were well placed to advise on how it might be improved. It was they who had originally proposed the 500kg kerbweight, in fact, to make the 340hp-per-tonne figure using the 177hp K Series variant. But there was simply no way that an Elise could be made that much lighter, and in the end 340 units were made of a car that was 50kg lighter at 675kg. 

The 340R could have been slower and heavier than an Elise, though, really, because it looked how it did. The response was so effusive from showgoers at the NEC in 1998 that a car never intended for production was given the green light, and all were spoken for before anyone had driven it. 

Remember this was before the world really knew about the Ariel Atom, as the track day scene was only properly emerging and the Caterham Seven was already decades old. Cars as extreme as the 340R just didn’t really exist, and that’s what made it all the more thrilling. A Renault Sport Spider was much heavier and less powerful, and cars like the Strathcarron just didn’t have the brand cachet. In its combination of futuristic styling (which had a hint of upcoming Elise S2 to it) and sorted underpinnings, the 340R was an instant hit. 

It’s amazing to think that this one is 25 years old, really; with some LED lights it would still look pretty contemporary. This is one of the original UK market cars, too, which is pretty cool - only 171 of the 340 were sold here. #324 is a one-owner car as well, with just 4,000 miles under its magnesium wheels; even for a skeletal sports car like this, that’s very little use for a quarter of a century. 

As such it’s showing very little wear, despite being so exposed. The fabrics look good, as does what exists of a dash, and the incredible bodywork seems free from imperfection. This one was specced with the VHPD 190 upgrade from new, as well as the titanium exhaust, so as something to drive it’s going to be as good as a 340R gets. Which, if the reports are right, should be something very special indeed. 

It’ll undoubtedly make for a spectacular summer sports car in 2026, as enthralling as an Elise with the presence of a supercar. This one is listed at POA; the last one we featured was for sale at almost £70,000 with just 2,000 miles three years ago. It’s hard to imagine there being any less excitement around these cars in collector circles nowadays. And just think how good it might look alongside one of those S1 restomods…


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Leftfootwonder

Original Poster:

1,483 posts

78 months

Yesterday (12:44)
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Randomly, I saw one of these last week in the grot and dark. Fair play to the driver for being out in that this time of year.

numtumfutunch

5,040 posts

158 months

Yesterday (12:45)
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Stunning

If I remember correctly didnt HM run one and document its story in Evo back in the day?

Vague memories of a heroic body off job for some kind of maintenance


Jerry1976

5 posts

Yesterday (12:55)
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Really glad Lotus made this but personally I'd rather have a very nice, and much more practical (has a boot and a roof) ordinary Elise so that I could actually use it for trips away etc, and not fear ruining its value by putting some more miles on it.

Cars like these are a far cry from how Lotus have fallen, importing crap EV's from China with a Lotus badge stuck to the front.

Benmac

1,623 posts

236 months

Yesterday (13:09)
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numtumfutunch said:
Stunning

If I remember correctly didnt HM run one and document its story in Evo back in the day?

Vague memories of a heroic body off job for some kind of maintenance
Assume HM is Harry Metcalfe? Yes, he had one and for ages still had a piece of the body in his garage on the wall. The body has to come off to change the battery amongst other things and a common trick people do on them is cut the body in half meaning the rear part can be removed separately.

cerb4.5lee

40,176 posts

200 months

Yesterday (13:17)
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I'd love a go in one of these. driving

gusko

139 posts

180 months

Yesterday (13:18)
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this one has been for sale in Bulgaria for a while now

https://www.mobile.bg/obiava-11726733796408903-lot...

Corkys

292 posts

221 months

Yesterday (13:42)
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Love these. Always thought I would buy one, but it never happened.

Robertb

3,118 posts

258 months

Yesterday (14:00)
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Call me heathen, but I'd far rather have an Emira V6.

Virtual PAH

203 posts

4 months

Yesterday (14:07)
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Recently watched 'Lotus Elise - The Inside Story' available on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-TiFKr2yb0

Interesting that they initially tried to make the Elise S1 without doors but had to go for a more traditional car design due to legislation about ingress height being too high without a door. So the original Elise could have been more like the 340R if that rule hadn't existed at the time.

Doubt it would have been as popular though, would have been too impractical. Perhaps Caterham should have bought the 340R design to offer something more modern than the 7, as that audience is already used to compromising practicality to focus on the driving experience. Though after their experience of being beaten in the market by a better product when launching the Caterham 21 (with the removable side windows) just as the Elise was being uncovered, perhaps they wanted nothing more to do with Lotus.



Edited by Virtual PAH on Monday 22 December 14:12

nismo48

5,948 posts

227 months

Yesterday (14:27)
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Benmac said:
numtumfutunch said:
Stunning

If I remember correctly didnt HM run one and document its story in Evo back in the day?

Vague memories of a heroic body off job for some kind of maintenance
Assume HM is Harry Metcalfe? Yes, he had one and for ages still had a piece of the body in his garage on the wall. The body has to come off to change the battery amongst other things and a common trick people do on them is cut the body in half meaning the rear part can be removed separately.
Sort of legal "Cut and shut " wink

cerb4.5lee

40,176 posts

200 months

Yesterday (14:39)
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Robertb said:
Call me heathen, but I'd far rather have an Emira V6.
I was a bit like that when these first came out as well, but they've definitely really grown on me now though.

GTRene

20,434 posts

244 months

Yesterday (14:45)
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Virtual PAH said:
Recently watched 'Lotus Elise - The Inside Story' available on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-TiFKr2yb0

Interesting that they initially tried to make the Elise S1 without doors but had to go for a more traditional car design due to legislation about ingress height being too high without a door. So the original Elise could have been more like the 340R if that rule hadn't existed at the time.

Doubt it would have been as popular though, would have been too impractical. Perhaps Caterham should have bought the 340R design to offer something more modern than the 7, as that audience is already used to compromising practicality to focus on the driving experience. Though after their experience of being beaten in the market by a better product when launching the Caterham 21 (with the removable side windows) just as the Elise was being uncovered, perhaps they wanted nothing more to do with Lotus.
BMW did make a lovely prototype car same-ish as the 340R called the BMW Just 4/2

a lovely little thing that made it with sort of doors smile now 30 years ago...
if they make it today it woud still be cool.





here as just the beams



here incl inserts, guess for less wind/open.





https://www.autoevolution.com/news/bmw-just-4-2-th...

WCZ

11,240 posts

214 months

Yesterday (14:51)
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if you can afford it more weight can be taken out and with some light breathing mods it can get to 340bhp/ton

https://www.340r.net/technical/weight/weight.htm

GTRene

20,434 posts

244 months

Yesterday (14:59)
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oh, and about those BMW Just 4/2 cars, they made at least 3 proto types, a red and blue and a grey one, this example



they also made those prototypes with central driving compact cars... wow the BMW Z13



I almost forgot about those lovely little BMW cars, you can see what they could have build, but instead, they mostly build big lumpy cars...

crofty1984

16,675 posts

224 months

Yesterday (15:11)
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GTRene said:
BMW did make a lovely prototype car same-ish as the 340R called the BMW Just 4/2

a lovely little thing that made it with sort of doors smile now 30 years ago...
if they make it today it woud still be cool.





here as just the beams



here incl inserts, guess for less wind/open.





https://www.autoevolution.com/news/bmw-just-4-2-th...
And instead we got the X3.

cerb4.5lee

40,176 posts

200 months

Yesterday (15:15)
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crofty1984 said:
GTRene said:
BMW did make a lovely prototype car same-ish as the 340R called the BMW Just 4/2

a lovely little thing that made it with sort of doors smile now 30 years ago...
if they make it today it woud still be cool.





here as just the beams



here incl inserts, guess for less wind/open.





https://www.autoevolution.com/news/bmw-just-4-2-th...
And instead we got the X3.
I must admit that I do like that, and I like how different it is. cool

Dakar Nofade

51 posts

54 months

Yesterday (23:44)
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Come on it looks like a Plymouth Prowler had a baby with a Smart Roadster n they got specs for it from Caterham.

I'll take an Elise GT1 over either if anyone wants to p/x with the 20 year old Boxster I have on my drive.

schaeffs

382 posts

162 months

Had one of these for 8 years and 12,000 mainly track miles although it did venture down to the South of France once or twice! Emerald ECU / Reverie Boost Tube / Spare set of Sport 160 rims and gave it a full body off refresh during that time. Was an epic car and whilst "pure" is a massively overused term it was about as pure as it gets driving wise.

I particularly loved the fact it had a windscreen so you could drive it helmet free on the road. Every single time you hopped in it (literally!) it was an experience I haven't found in any other car before or since. So much love for them in the UK as well. Many happy memories!