Track/race training
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There are a number of great instructors and the odd school, best bet would be to speak to a few as you need to gel with your coach.
Dean, many friends have used him and speak highly of him, I have him booked for a day next year.
Spike, well known, well respected, knows his stuff and his circuit guides are great.
Gary Walton, another worth a look at, coaches a couple of mates in NLR and both seen real gains
CSS might be worth a look, I've done all 4 levels, has a value no doubt.
The others you mention I can't really comment on.
Dean, many friends have used him and speak highly of him, I have him booked for a day next year.
Spike, well known, well respected, knows his stuff and his circuit guides are great.
Gary Walton, another worth a look at, coaches a couple of mates in NLR and both seen real gains
CSS might be worth a look, I've done all 4 levels, has a value no doubt.
The others you mention I can't really comment on.
dibblecorse said:
There are a number of great instructors and the odd school, best bet would be to speak to a few as you need to gel with your coach.
This is good advice, but I don't know how you assess that without paying for the day and finding out your instructor is a t
t as I did on the CSS Level 1 when it was run from Rockingham (during the war etc.) I've also done a couple of days with Rapid, but that was when it was possible just to do a single day with an instructor on the road. I think you now have to sign up for Roadmaster, Trackmaster etc. which feels like a big commitment given the qualification above. Having said that, Rapid were excellent and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them for the road, but haven't tried them on track.
I've also done the British Superbike School and my Instructor was excellent. I think a couple of people on here know him, but he was ex RAF and was patient and understanding of my inability to outrun him on track. He was on a well loved VFR750 whilst I was on a V4S Streetfighter. Humbling, but educational. That was level 1 and I want to go back to do either that again, or Level 2.
In addition to all that, I've done knee down school with i2i at Millbrook this last summer. Again, really good fun, used their bikes which made it less stressful. The teaching was brilliant and I wish I could have had a couple more hours just to get it right. Hilarious teaching delivery too.
In the meantime, I am going to book some more trackdays (see the other thread where I might apparently be assassinated or die by fire as it's early in the season...) I figure that I just need more practice as well as I've clearly had a few attempts at learning.
One more thing I've got booked is some training on the track day with an instructor. That feels like a sensible way to improve without committing to a full course whilst I hone my limited skills.
I am sure someone on here will also know an Instructor or two personally and vouch for them not being an odd ball, so would rely on that perhaps.
So What Level are you at? Mid Novice or top of fast Group?
Dean or Spike are mega instructors But if your mid novice you won't get much from it
Rapid is a Great place to go to for instruction.
Some great instructors and very few people on track.
An academy day with MSV is an option. 7 sessions with an instructor on track a normal trackday.
Where are you based?
Dean or Spike are mega instructors But if your mid novice you won't get much from it
Rapid is a Great place to go to for instruction.
Some great instructors and very few people on track.
An academy day with MSV is an option. 7 sessions with an instructor on track a normal trackday.
Where are you based?
If you’re new to tracks, or running in the lower groups then you’re better off using the free tuition available to get to grips with the basics first. No Limits will do one (possibly two) sessions a day for free. You can learn a lot from these guys, a lot more than people give them credit for. I think that a lot of people try to go all in and try to learn everything very quickly and think it will all just fall into place after a couple of days. It won’t. The list of things to do is infinite and nobody ever has it all working perfectly all the time. There’s no real substitute for learning things one (or two) thing at a time and practising them over and over until they become second nature, then move on.
Track riding is very different to road. Whilst a lot of the skills transfer from track to road, very few (some do, before the IAM obsessive get all uppity) of the road skills translate to track in my opinion.
Just so you know Whitham days are like a trackday with a lot fewer people on track and there will be some BSB guys out there riding round too. I’m not sure you gain a lot of riding training, especially on a 1-1 basis. They are a great day for having a lot of space on track though. I’m
Track riding is very different to road. Whilst a lot of the skills transfer from track to road, very few (some do, before the IAM obsessive get all uppity) of the road skills translate to track in my opinion.
Just so you know Whitham days are like a trackday with a lot fewer people on track and there will be some BSB guys out there riding round too. I’m not sure you gain a lot of riding training, especially on a 1-1 basis. They are a great day for having a lot of space on track though. I’m
Did the Chris Walker school at Mallory years back. The actual on track instructor was a complete waste of time, BUT Whitam did the classroom sessions in between track time and he was worth every penny I'd paid on that course. He had a fantastic way of explaining techniques and ways to approach corners that just clicked.
Nothing improved my track riding better than applying what he'd told me.
Nothing improved my track riding better than applying what he'd told me.
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