Reasonable Sugar Tax?
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Went to the shop first thing. Mrs said can you get me a bottle of Coke, she meant the 500ml ones.
They had zero sugar for £1.40 or full fat for £1.80, Mrs is a size 6 and one of those people that can eat/drink whatever she likes without ill effects. So got her the full fat.
I know there's a sugar tax and can see the sense of that but never really noticed the spread. Googled it and seems the rate is 25p per litre, so should have been 12.5p for her half litre bottle.
Presumably the shop are paying the 12.5p and pocketing the difference?
They had zero sugar for £1.40 or full fat for £1.80, Mrs is a size 6 and one of those people that can eat/drink whatever she likes without ill effects. So got her the full fat.
I know there's a sugar tax and can see the sense of that but never really noticed the spread. Googled it and seems the rate is 25p per litre, so should have been 12.5p for her half litre bottle.
Presumably the shop are paying the 12.5p and pocketing the difference?
Wilmslowboy said:
The tax is paid by the manufacturer or importer, so in essence gets added to the wholesale price.
The retailer will apply normal markups etc, hence the wider spread by the point it gets to the customer.
Is that also the case for restaurants? The sugar tax markup McDonalds apply to Coca Cola postmix drinks seems fairly close to 25p/litre.The retailer will apply normal markups etc, hence the wider spread by the point it gets to the customer.
jonsp said:
flight147z said:
Appreciate it's not you and it's widespread but I've never understood why people call the original "full fat". It doesn't have any fat in it
Fair point. In my defence, I've heard people call the full size Range Rover full fat
but that's off topicIn response to your original question perhaps a little more complex than that - the cost of their supply may differ by more than the tax, e.g. they may sell less original coke so order less and pay more for it, passing that cost on to the customer
flight147z said:
Appreciate it's not you and it's widespread but I've never understood why people call the original "full fat". It doesn't have any fat in it

Because for some reason when you order "a coke" the waiter then asks if you want diet. If I wanted diet coke then that's what I'd order. In unrelated news I had some Greek Lemon Fanta which has 12g/100ml vs 4.5 for the UK stuff. .:ian:. said:
A lot of the "full-fat" non-diet drinks have both sugar and also artificial sweetener, I guess to keep the price down.
The tax has helped as we have heard, many popular foods have reduced sugar. Sadly just to have added artificial sweeteners. Maybe update it to an ultra processed food tax.wyson said:
Yes, I can t drink them anymore because I don t do well with the latest generation of sweeteners. Face goes puffy and I get leakage.
I think the original Coke is one of the few that don t. Even full fat Pepsi has Ace K in it.
If you want a proper sugar overload without artificial sweeteners, Irn Bru 1901 is another option, but very expensive. Normal Irn Bru is about as foul and undrinkable as its Diet counterpart these days.I think the original Coke is one of the few that don t. Even full fat Pepsi has Ace K in it.
alangla said:
wyson said:
Yes, I can t drink them anymore because I don t do well with the latest generation of sweeteners. Face goes puffy and I get leakage.
I think the original Coke is one of the few that don t. Even full fat Pepsi has Ace K in it.
If you want a proper sugar overload without artificial sweeteners, Irn Bru 1901 is another option, but very expensive. Normal Irn Bru is about as foul and undrinkable as its Diet counterpart these days.I think the original Coke is one of the few that don t. Even full fat Pepsi has Ace K in it.
Tax is tax , just gutted to get round it the producers reduced sugar and replaced it sweetners making everything taste s
te. And to me , become undrinkable.Ribenna, vimto, robinson squash and all the fizzy cans.
FilH said:
Check out the iCE brand of drinks, they do a proper iron bro rep. Full sugar, and caffine, belive the 1901 doesnt have the caffine like the original did.
Todd’s Energy Drinks in Belfast make a proper full fat, full sugar same great taste original Lucozde type drink. It’s the proper old school Lucozade you used to buy from the pharmacy in the glass bottles and cellophane wrapper in everything but the name.I’ve just had a look on their website and it looks like they’re out of the glass bottles, it’s just that wee bit nicer chilled, from the bottle and they offer a money back guarantee if you’re not completely satisfied.
https://toddsdrinks.co.uk/about-us/
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TrevorHill said:
Todd s Energy Drinks in Belfast make a proper full fat, full sugar same great taste original Lucozde type drink. It s the proper old school Lucozade you used to buy from the pharmacy in the glass bottles and cellophane wrapper in everything but the name.
I ve just had a look on their website and it looks like they re out of the glass bottles, it s just that wee bit nicer chilled, from the bottle and they offer a money back guarantee if you re not completely satisfied.
https://toddsdrinks.co.uk/about-us/
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That’s the one I never understood: why did Glucose Aid decide to reformulate and discontinue the original product rather than either just pay the tax or offer (another) low sugar variant. It was already a premium product, so an uplift in price wouldn’t have affected sales much. AIUI, Lucozade used to be the reference drink used for diabetics to get out of hypoglycaemia, but as a result of reformulation it’s now Coca Cola.I ve just had a look on their website and it looks like they re out of the glass bottles, it s just that wee bit nicer chilled, from the bottle and they offer a money back guarantee if you re not completely satisfied.
https://toddsdrinks.co.uk/about-us/
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