991.1 GT3 bargain?

[PRO5T]

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202511017...


Clubsport, ceramics so good spec, G6 engine... OK private sale over xmas but...

Very similar spec and miles to me 997 GT3 and cheaper! These are going to start to be hard to ignore at cheaper than a 17 year old 997 and a 20 year old 996 GT3 surely?

[darreni]

Not a clubsport, but does have ceramics and front lift and two years warranty.
85k before haggle.

https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/dealer/details...

[MDL111]

darreni said:

Not a clubsport, but does have ceramics and front lift and two years warranty.
85k before haggle.

https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/dealer/details...

I would much rather have that as my daily car than a new 992 for more money (I would happily take the CS as daily, but for most people the normal seats are probably preferable).

[DRH986]

PRO5T said:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202511017...

Interesting how an independent specialist had to change pads all round only 5K miles after an OPC service with no advisories. Not normal OPC behaviour in my experience!

[TrevorHill]

DRH986 said:

PRO5T said:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202511017...

Interesting how an independent specialist had to change pads all round only 5K miles after an OPC service with no advisories. Not normal OPC behaviour in my experience!

Or it could have been driven hard over the same 5k miles. You could easily use a set of tyres and pads on a single track day.

[Discombobulate]

Check out engine failure chart on this thread (from Rennlist). Based on 48 cars covering 600,000 miles the failure rate was still a worrying 10.2% for G6 engine, albeit compared to around 60% for the earlier E and F series (based on 67 cars covering 1.5 million miles).

The lowest failure rate was G0 series (zero for later ones).
Not sure how representative the sampling was but it makes the G0 the one to go for if refective.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

[paddy1970]

Understands the engine risk

Budgets for warranty

Accepts some long-term stigma versus Mezger cars

[DRH986]

TrevorHill said:

Or it could have been driven hard over the same 5k miles. You could easily use a set of tyres and pads on a single track day.

Could a single track day really finish off a set of PCCB pads after receiving a clean bill of health from an OPC? Maybe it was multiple track days?

[keo]

Discombobulate said:

Check out engine failure chart on this thread (from Rennlist). Based on 48 cars covering 600,000 miles the failure rate was still a worrying 10.2% for G6 engine, albeit compared to around 60% for the earlier E and F series (based on 67 cars covering 1.5 million miles).

The lowest failure rate was G0 series (zero for later ones).
Not sure how representative the sampling was but it makes the G0 the one to go for if refective.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Chance you take. My mate had a new engine fitted in his under warranty.

[FriedMarsBar]

what do people think will happen with values when these early cars are nearing the end of the warranty period.

I don't think I'd run a .1 GT3 without a warranty.

[cseven]

think the challenge with these is there is a fundamental design flaw and eventually would need a rebuild but as most don't cover many miles then might not be an issue until many years. That being said an M96 rebuild is 15k, what are these...35k+? Porsche should show some goodwill and provide the parts at a heavily discounted rate imo.

[a_dreamer]

That one in Leeds has upset me. Looked and thought.... That's practically new 2014... Then remembered that's on for a 12 year old car this year..... I'm old

[FL Racing]

DRH986 said:

Could a single track day really finish off a set of PCCB pads after receiving a clean bill of health from an OPC? Maybe it was multiple track days?

Yes, I run a .2 version and replaced my brake pads after 1 evening session. Car bought from an OPC and at the time of change less than a 1000 miles since bought.
To look a the pads through the wheels all looked fine and plenty of meat left on the pads. The problem with the 991 GT3 is the pads over heat and start to crumble and you start hearing a sand paper sound while braking on the road and minor scratches on the discs.
I expect this is more likely the reason for changing the pads.
Improve the cooling the problem goes away
To be fare to the OPC unless you remove the pads you can’t see the crumbling.

[Cheib]

FriedMarsBar said:

what do people think will happen with values when these early cars are nearing the end of the warranty period.

I don't think I'd run a .1 GT3 without a warranty.

I wouldn’t run one without a warranty. It is currently just over £1k a year for a Porsche warranty, you can buy three years at a time. Cover lasts until car is 15 years old. That price has barely changed in the last few years which makes it pretty cheap in my mind.

I think it will continue to impact values personally as I don’t think people want the headache.

[Grantstown]

It’ll become the cheapest GT3 variant, but it’ll find its price and stay there. Replacement engines are out there if required, so there’s a solution if the worst happens. I haven’t heard of anyone posting about an engine failure n years though to be fair.

[peterdent]

TrevorHill said:

Highly unlikely. I should have read the ad in full before posting. I assumed that it had standard brakes.

No not even with Max on the middle pedal . Generally up to 10 track Days on steel . We generally get a whole 24 hour race on 1 set of pads , bed a new set in in warm up .