DIY electrical and part p

[fourstardan]

I've got into my DIY this year, I've got a technical job in IT and most things when I got home have meant the last thing I want to be doing is DIY.

That said, last year I did a full roofline refit with fasicas/guttering/soffits and this year I will be doing a refit of my bathroom.

I've done my kitchen with an ex colleague who was Part P casting an eye on the work there that was just downlight a few spur changes and now in the bathroom i'm going to be fitting some downlighters, I've moved the existing rose and light switch off that to be outside the room and done the isolator for a fan and then will do a mirror.

Every time I see a YouTube video there is always someone saying "get a fully qualified electrician" in....

So does not going part p worry you? For me I'm confident in what I am doing, I fit everything into concealed boxes and abide by any part p guidelines, that can't be any worse than original work done.

Interested to hear what you think or feel about this.

[illmonkey]

I do all my own stuff.



Btw, what’s part P?

[finlo]

Btw, what s part P?
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A licence to print money.

[.:ian:.]

Mostly a problem when you come to sell, the TA6 form will ask about any work done, electrical work will prompt a request for certification for the work.

[Russet Grange]

Just get on with it in my opinion. If you know what you're doing being an obvious requirement.

[Simpo Two]

.:ian:. said:

Mostly a problem when you come to sell, the TA6 form will ask about any work done, electrical work will prompt a request for certification for the work.

I had this 'You'll never sell your house' angle from a window fitter. Millions of houses don't have certificates for work, not least because they've only recently been invented. If you really need one just get a chap in with whatever qualification is required and ask him to test it/fix it/give you the bit of paper.

[Evanivitch]

.:ian:. said:

Mostly a problem when you come to sell, the TA6 form will ask about any work done, electrical work will prompt a request for certification for the work.

Or you make an insurance claim...

[IJWS15]

I do all my own, not an electrician.

Last sold a house 2 years ago. Was asked if there was a test cert for the house (yes and provided the one the builderS provided to the original owner).
Was there had been diy electrical work done - Yes - They asked to send an electrician in to do some checks and everything was fine with him.

What professionals had done that I found during our ownership:
- alarm panel supply taken from the heating FCU in such a way that isolating the heating meant that every neutral in the heating went live.
- white alarm wire sleeving used instead of earth sleeving inside the consumer unit.

I don’t trust the professionals to do it properly

[GasEngineer]

if you're doing work in a kitchen it needs to be signed off by Building Control; or on their behalf by a person who is part of a registered electrical body.

In practice even when you have paid BC they will just farm it out to an electrician.

[Belle427]

No issues if your capable enough and do your research, I have seen certs issued where the Electrician has not even got his test meter out of the van so not worth the paper they are written on.

[fourstardan]

It does feel like it needs some revisiting with the resources available now.

I know sparkies so it's not an issue to get a cert and the help but I actually like and enjoy learning about it.

I'd never do Gas work and never do any fuse board related work, copper pipe work is another area I'm staying away from, I don't want leaks in inaccessible places.

[BlindedByTheLights]

As an example of ‘professional’. This is the feed for my garage and is completely original to the house so done by Berkeley homes in 1999. The feed comes off the back of a socket. Only found it yesterday so it will be coming out and run properly.

[Belle427]

Nice!

[jfdi]

Agree with the above posters, I trust my own work more than that of a professional that wants to get in and out and take the money. I'll worry about certs should I ever sell, either pay for it to be certified or £50 for the usual solicitors indemnity insurance policy.
Rules say it must be carried out by a competent person. Part P is supposed to be the industry way of proving competency. If you're incapable of doing it without electrocuting someone or burning your house down then your're obviously not competent.

[megaphone]

BlindedByTheLights said:

As an example of professional . This is the feed for my garage and is completely original to the house so done by Berkeley homes in 1999. The feed comes off the back of a socket. Only found it yesterday so it will be coming out and run properly.

What do you think is wrong with that?

[mickk]

BlindedByTheLights said:

As an example of professional . This is the feed for my garage and is completely original to the house so done by Berkeley homes in 1999. The feed comes off the back of a socket. Only found it yesterday so it will be coming out and run properly.

Did you get your user name after you took the cover off ?

[BlindedByTheLights]

megaphone said:

BlindedByTheLights said:

As an example of professional . This is the feed for my garage and is completely original to the house so done by Berkeley homes in 1999. The feed comes off the back of a socket. Only found it yesterday so it will be coming out and run properly.

What do you think is wrong with that?

I’m not an electrician just a DIYer, 3 double sockets, internal garage lighting and an external halogen security light all running off the back of another double socket from inside the house. Garage not on a separate MCB just off the sockets MCB,

[Bob-iylho]

BlindedByTheLights said:

megaphone said:

BlindedByTheLights said:

As an example of professional . This is the feed for my garage and is completely original to the house so done by Berkeley homes in 1999. The feed comes off the back of a socket. Only found it yesterday so it will be coming out and run properly.

What do you think is wrong with that?

I m not an electrician just a DIYer, 3 double sockets, internal garage lighting and an external halogen security light all running off the back of another double socket from inside the house. Garage not on a separate MCB just off the sockets MCB,

Pffft...... so what, my dad used to run more than that with wires just pushed into the socket in the 70's, nothing serious ever happened ............... apart from poor old grandad getting blown up and 2 house fires............

[JoshSm]

GasEngineer said:

if you're doing work in a kitchen it needs to be signed off by Building Control; or on their behalf by a person who is part of a registered electrical body.

It's not a blanket requirement for kitchens under Part P and hasn't been for a while. Check a more recent edition.

[GasEngineer]

jfdi said:

Agree with the above posters, I trust my own work more than that of a professional that wants to get in and out and take the money. I'll worry about certs should I ever sell, either pay for it to be certified or £50 for the usual solicitors indemnity insurance policy.
Rules say it must be carried out by a competent person. Part P is supposed to be the industry way of proving competency. If you're incapable of doing it without electrocuting someone or burning your house down then your're obviously not competent.

Part P is the section of the Building Regs that apply - not proof of competency.

Electrical work in a kitchen is classed as notifiable work and must be reported to your local authority’s Building Control department before starting, unless performed by a registered electrician who is part of a competent person scheme (e.g., NICEIC).