EV in snow - how's it going?
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Sheepshanks

Original Poster:

38,719 posts

140 months

Put CrossClimates on daughter's Gen 2 Kona as soon as got it last winter, as I'd read horror stories about how bad EV specific tyres are. Regular EV users said I'd over-reacted and, of course, that winter was a non-event.

Glad they're on now though!

SpeckledJim

32,194 posts

274 months

When you say 'EV specific' do you mean tyres designed for low rolling resistance? If so then no, they'll not be as good as an all-season tyre in the snow. That's not an EV thing though, just a tyre thing.

CrgT16

2,392 posts

129 months

Maybe you mean extra load tires with stiffer sidewalls?

No issues with our EVs on standard summer tires.

Driving on today’s conditions with a lot of ice and minus temperatures requires attention and drive to the condition EV or not .

RizzoTheRat

27,616 posts

213 months

How good is traction control on EV's? Presumably it should be able to achieve a much better level of control than an ICE can manage.

My PHEV on all seasons has been absolutely fine on EV mode in the paltry 1cm or so of snow we've had.

TheRainMaker

7,494 posts

263 months

RizzoTheRat said:
How good is traction control on EV's? Presumably it should be able to achieve a much better level of control than an ICE can manage.

My PHEV on all seasons has been absolutely fine on EV mode in the paltry 1cm or so of snow we've had.
It depends.

The Polestar twin-motor is really good; the i3S is rubbish.

andrewpandrew

1,724 posts

10 months

Honda e on MPS4s, RWD, one button to turn the TC off, it's fun!

We put Conti All Seasons on the Polestar 2 when we had it, fully expecting them to be significantly noisier, and for them to dint the efficiency, but in all honesty the effects were negligible. I'll be doing the same when the tyres on the P4 need changing.

otolith

64,359 posts

225 months

The ID.3 hasn't moved from the drive recently, so don't know. The dual motor Polestar has been great - our road is still completely frozen and slippery as hell, and on a slope. Goes up and down without any fuss. The four wheel drive is noticeably rear biased, and the stability control is more fun tolerant than I would have expected, which was a pleasant surprise. The way that the power is metered out makes it very controllable, and the way that the regen works makes controlling the speed downhill on ice very intuitive.

MG4XPower

118 posts

27 months

I find the traction control to be so much faster and more precise than in my previous 1 litre Fiesta; AWD has been rather impressive in snow mode when encountering either fresh or lightly packed snow.

If you mean the tyres - Bridgestone Turanza EV-specific tyres of some sort. Well, they perfectly good in the dry. In the wet, they're not bad for traction, but they don't inspire confidence at all in the corners in the wet - nor under braking. When they need replacing, I'll be sticking Michelin PS5 on, even if it does cost me approximately c.10% of range.

Sheepshanks

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38,719 posts

140 months

SpeckledJim said:
When you say 'EV specific' do you mean tyres designed for low rolling resistance?
I mean tyres with “EV” in their name - the car came with “Nexen N Fera Sport EV” tyres, in 235/45R19 size.

I’d read they were terrible but most comments related to Gen 1 Kona which was noted for having fairly brutal throttle response. The Gen 2 is much better calibrated.


thebraketester

15,317 posts

159 months

Ioniq 5 rwd we had was great in the snow a few years ago. On normal tyres.

otolith

64,359 posts

225 months

Mine still has the factory fitted Michelin Primacy tyres. I'd rather it were on the factory option CrossClimates, but they've been OK so far. It's only our road that's still an icy mess, everywhere else is clear.

SpeckledJim

32,194 posts

274 months

Sheepshanks said:
SpeckledJim said:
When you say 'EV specific' do you mean tyres designed for low rolling resistance?
I mean tyres with EV in their name - the car came with Nexen N Fera Sport EV tyres, in 235/45R19 size.

I d read they were terrible but most comments related to Gen 1 Kona which was noted for having fairly brutal throttle response. The Gen 2 is much better calibrated.
Fair enough. That's a high performance tyre designed for heavy cars. You're right, it's not going to be any good in the snow.


Sheepshanks

Original Poster:

38,719 posts

140 months

MG4XPower said:
I find the traction control to be so much faster and more precise than in my previous 1 litre Fiesta; AWD has been rather impressive in snow mode when encountering either fresh or lightly packed snow.
I did read one suggestion that if stuck on an uphill slope then bury the throttle and the traction control will get the car moving. Not tried that!

Mr E

22,647 posts

280 months

RizzoTheRat said:
How good is traction control on EV's? Presumably it should be able to achieve a much better level of control than an ICE can manage.
I conducted an experiment with my old 2015 leaf. Not a fireball, but decent torque from standstill. Snow on the road, definitely difficult conditions.

I pinned the throttle. The traction light came on, and the car pulled away in a straight line with zero effort.
I did not try it in the corners, and I was wary of regen (it wasn’t strong in the leaf).

cronie007

16 posts

194 months

EVs put down torque instantly, which is great until grip disappears. Stock tyres are usually optimised for efficiency and noise, not low-temp traction. Proper all-season or winter rubber changes the whole experience, especially with regen braking in slippery conditions. Snowless winters just hide the problem for a while.

sixor8

7,479 posts

289 months

Only about 1" of it around here, but compacted down and froze overnight on Saturday. I expected issues in my Honda eNy1 yesterday, being fwd, but it was fine. Leaving it in Eco, the power delivery is not fierce and the ABS didn't even kick in if I used regen and braked gently. smile

I spent 35 yrs driving a car without any ABS so I'm perhaps being over-cautious but it's been fine.

geeks

10,897 posts

160 months

gmaz

5,069 posts

231 months

Haven't tried it myself but I wonder if regen braking can cause the tyres to slip on snow/ice, i.e. does the traction control work as well under braking as acceleration?


TheRainMaker

7,494 posts

263 months

gmaz said:
Haven't tried it myself but I wonder if regen braking can cause the tyres to slip on snow/ice, i.e. does the traction control work as well under braking as acceleration?
On the polestar it uses the ABS.

LivLL

11,985 posts

218 months

geeks said:
or slide your Tesla down a hill with your foot stomped on the brake pedal

https://x.com/Des_Tinney/status/135889135908888166...

Sometimes the driver doesn't help. Car probably though it was stationary as the wheels are all locked up.

As for EV's in snow, Norweigans seem to manage pretty well for the most part.