RE: BMW confirms RWD mode, quad motors for electric M3
RE: BMW confirms RWD mode, quad motors for electric M3
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BMW confirms RWD mode, quad motors for electric M3

BMW's hotly anticipated M Neue Klasse promises 'unrivalled high-performance standards' - here's how


A new BMW M car of any stripe is always exciting, but the arrival of the first all-electric M still feels like very big news indeed. (The M Performance i cars technically qualify, but you know what we mean). The M Neue Klasse is meant to represent the pinnacle of BMW’s EV expertise, a car to sit alongside the M2, M3, M5 and the like as a top-tier M car. No pressure, then. 

With the M Neue Klasse set to arrive next year, the car is currently undergoing what’s likely to be the last round of winter testing. There’s a lot to get working harmoniously: BMW M eDrive, aka four electric motors from the BMW Gen 6 eDrive family, the BMW M Dynamic Performance Control (a version of the Heart of Joy software), a 100kWh battery, xDrive with a front axle that can be decoupled, ‘emulated’ gear shifts and an appropriately M soundscape to go alongside. 

See, this is going to be much more than just a faster, firmer Neue Klasse. For the M, the battery gets new cell chemistry, designed for a performance application, with uprated cooling alongside. This means it’ll charge faster (800 volt architecture is included) and recuperate more energy while driving. Interestingly, too, the battery housing is employed as a structural component, connected to both axles and boosting stiffness. Plus there’s the power that the battery provides, of course: the Neue Klasse promise is of ‘a level of performance previously unattained in BMW M’s production vehicles.’ Those being the cars already with up to 740hp. 

It’s the motors that promise so much of the excitement (and the power, of course) for the M Neue Klasse. One per wheel should mean precision and control unlike that seen in any other EV that relies on just one per axle. BMW suggests a quad-motor setup ‘combines all the advantages of rear-wheel and all-wheel drive while enhancing driving dynamics on the road and racetrack’, with a pure RWD setting for those that absolutely must. Plus it boosts efficiency to have just one driven axle when required. But we’re all thinking the same thing when BMW is talking about an M car that can be purely rear-drive. 

More prosaically, the M benefits from the same ‘Superbrains’ collection of computers, four in total that will control everything from automated driving to infotainment. They promise faster updates and upgrades, too, which is interesting from an M perspective, as perhaps more sounds and features specific to the model become available. This Neue Klasse flagship is also going to use BMW’s latest natural fibre tech, the first of its EV range to do so, which serves the same purpose as carbon fibre while requiring less CO2 to produce. BMW suggests that ‘lightweight construction has always played an important role in high-performance models’, which seems a tad disingenuous given the current line-up. They’re great, but they aren’t light. So don’t expect anything drastically different for the M Neue Klasse, however much natural fibre is kitted on. 

“The next generation of models are set to establish a new benchmark in the high-performance vehicle segment,” said BMW M MD Franciscus van Meel. “With the latest generation of Neue Klasse technology, we are taking the BMW M driving experience to a new level and will inspire our customers with outstanding, racetrack-ready driving dynamics for everyday use.” A quote that could have been used (with just a little bit of editing) for the introduction of turbochargers, all-wheel drive and automatic gearboxes to M cars. And those turned out alright - will the same be true for the fully battery-powered M?


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pacdes

Original Poster:

706 posts

182 months

EV M car....'Tumbleweed'. On the positive side look at the f'ing grill.

Terminator X

19,106 posts

225 months

I want to hate it but if they can keep the weight down you never know.

TX.

wistec1

710 posts

62 months

This signals a finger post in the road for BMW and for me the pure ICE M cars will forever be on the golden highway whilst the make believe EV M offerings complete with fake sound will be on the tree huggers road to a cliff edge with any luck.

It may well perform and be engineered to con the stary eyed in driving like a M car but it will never really be one will it? Naysayers can rejoice at such offering and the sheer drop that awaits them.

PSB1967

401 posts

177 months

wistec1 said:
This signals a finger post in the road for BMW and for me the pure ICE M cars will forever be on the golden highway whilst the make believe EV M offerings complete with fake sound will be on the tree huggers road to a cliff edge with any luck.

It may well perform and be engineered to con the stary eyed in driving like a M car but it will never really be one will it? Naysayers can rejoice at such offering and the sheer drop that awaits them.
Don't all modern M cars have Fake sound? ASD or something.

pacdes

Original Poster:

706 posts

182 months

Remember the 4-cylinder C63 plug-in hybrid .... RIP EV M cars.

Crumpet

4,902 posts

201 months

Let’s be honest, it’s not as though ICE cars are hugely engaging as a rule these days. They don’t sound great (I’d rather have no noise than listen to a four-pot VAG farting), the steering is dulled and the two-pedalled auto gearboxes are so quick and slick that they may as well be an EV.

This should be awesome. Quiet and efficient when you want it to be 99% of the time, and obscenely quick for that occasional opportunity that arises.

raspy

2,198 posts

115 months

Quad motors could be fun to drive.

One for the younger generation of consumers who aren't clinging to the past. It will sell better in other markets where people have fewer insecurities and hangups about a changing world.

SDK

2,491 posts

274 months

This will be the car which sways the anti-EV people .
Once they drive it and step away from their keyboards idea

whp1983

1,287 posts

160 months

I’m sure it’ll be rapid….. as a toy I’m not interested because engines are a key component of what make cars interesting. As a daily I imagine it’ll be very expensive and with tax going the way it is maybe not worth it.

They had to complete the job but as Porsche etc are finding out this could be a tough sell.

Look forward to seeing it and having a go though

Debaser

7,420 posts

282 months

I hope it’s good fun! I’m not sure about the way it looks though; the overall diameter of the wheels/tyres look too small for the size of the body.

rodericb

8,393 posts

147 months

Electric M3 will be cool for people who like electric cars and would be a nice stablemate to an M3 with an internal combustion engine and the choice of manual or "automatic" transmission.

Jon_S_Rally

4,187 posts

109 months

raspy said:
Quad motors could be fun to drive.

One for the younger generation of consumers who aren't clinging to the past. It will sell better in other markets where people have fewer insecurities and hangups about a changing world.
Weird take given how Europe has shifted legislation to allow continued production of ICEs, while the US has relatively low EV adoption rates compared to some nations. Even more so when you consider Porsche backtracking on switching to pure EV for some of its models and the fact that some manufacturers have struggled to shift premium, high-performance EVs.

It's going to be interesting to see how this car does, as the M3 is a very significant car in the performance market, so it could be an interesting marker as to how much appetite there actually is for cars like this. I'm sure the likes of Mercedes and Audi will be watching closely.

nickfrog

23,878 posts

238 months

wistec1 said:
This signals a finger post in the road for BMW and for me the pure ICE M cars will forever be on the golden highway whilst the make believe EV M offerings complete with fake sound will be on the tree huggers road to a cliff edge with any luck.

It may well perform and be engineered to con the stary eyed in driving like a M car but it will never really be one will it? Naysayers can rejoice at such offering and the sheer drop that awaits them.
Damn, you're highly strung. Are you all right?

GTEYE

2,343 posts

231 months

Given the Neue Klasse is going to be the new i3 what will this actually be called?

i3M?

Mi3?

Neither have quite the kudos of M3…

South tdf

1,738 posts

216 months

Think this will be going to the top of the replacement list for my current EV.

plfrench

4,055 posts

289 months

‘a level of performance previously unattained in BMW M’s production vehicles.’

Early winner of the understatement of the year biglaugh

Insane straight line performance is obviously a given, but it’s the cornering and handling responses that will be the most eye-opening I suspect. The agility that will be unlocked by having complete control of each individual wheel’s speed has the potential to rewrite the rules for performance cars generally, not just M cars. Will be fascinating to see this.

EV8

417 posts

24 months

South tdf said:
Think this will be going to the top of the replacement list for my current EV.
Me too! I just hope it will come in touring version.
Currently I have an Ioniq5N, and it is fantastic. This should be in another level!

Galibier

842 posts

8 months

nickfrog said:
Damn, you're highly strung. Are you all right?
That’ll be a no

MOOSECORTINA

240 posts

100 months

Oh dear. BMW going down hill now.

T1berious

2,591 posts

176 months

Fingers crossed it will be a great car full stop rather than a good EV.

I'll be more interested in the M-Lite of the Neue Klasse cars. 400 - 500 bhp, similar torque number and AWD would be plenty brisk enough. Coupled with 400 miles WLTP.

Sadly, I think that would work out at over 70k if current pricing is anything to go by.

Reckon the new M3 will be 100k starting?