Tax Benefits of becoming a Limited Company?
Tax Benefits of becoming a Limited Company?
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JQ

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6,532 posts

200 months

My wife works for the NHS 3 days a week, PAYE. She also runs her own business, providing the same service, which is now generating £70,000-£80,000 per annum. Her accountant is crap, and more of a bookkeeper, so I have been tasked with assessing whether it's worth creating a limited company. Her assets are limited (max £25,000), she has professional indemnity insurance and all the income is derived from the service she provides, as such I can only see the benefits being a reduction in tax.

She currently declares the additional income via self assessment (with various costs deducted). I have no idea about this stuff, what do I need to do to calculate if it's worthwhile?

Deep Thought

38,332 posts

218 months

JQ said:
My wife works for the NHS 3 days a week, PAYE. She also runs her own business, providing the same service, which is now generating £70,000-£80,000 per annum. Her accountant is crap, and more of a bookkeeper, so I have been tasked with assessing whether it's worth creating a limited company. Her assets are limited (max £25,000), she has professional indemnity insurance and all the income is derived from the service she provides, as such I can only see the benefits being a reduction in tax.

She currently declares the additional income via self assessment (with various costs deducted). I have no idea about this stuff, what do I need to do to calculate if it's worthwhile?
Will they pay her via a limited company?

It may well be a role deemed "inside IR35", or they may have a blanket approach to only paying via umbrella / payrole?

There are still benefits to Ltd Co, though they arent as good as what they were.

JQ

Original Poster:

6,532 posts

200 months

Deep Thought said:
Will they pay her via a limited company?

It may well be a role deemed "inside IR35", or they may have a blanket approach to only paying via umbrella / payrole?

There are still benefits to Ltd Co, though they arent as good as what they were.
Not sure who they are, but the £70,000-£80,000 is paid by her hundreds of clients at £45-£300 per time. Her NHS income is as a part time employee (PAYE).

Deep Thought

38,332 posts

218 months

JQ said:
Not sure who they are, but the £70,000-£80,000 is paid by her hundreds of clients at £45-£300 per time. Her NHS income is as a part time employee (PAYE).
Ah with you now.

Thought you were considering pushing the NHS part through Ltd as well.

My bad

Eric Mc

124,566 posts

286 months

JQ said:
My wife works for the NHS 3 days a week, PAYE. She also runs her own business, providing the same service, which is now generating £70,000-£80,000 per annum. Her accountant is crap, and more of a bookkeeper, so I have been tasked with assessing whether it's worth creating a limited company. Her assets are limited (max £25,000), she has professional indemnity insurance and all the income is derived from the service she provides, as such I can only see the benefits being a reduction in tax.

She currently declares the additional income via self assessment (with various costs deducted). I have no idea about this stuff, what do I need to do to calculate if it's worthwhile?
The tax advantages of operating a business through a limited company are nothing like as good as they used to be.

In fact, I woould say that there are none any more - especially since Rachel Reeves announced increases in the Income Tax rates applicable to dividends in her recent Budget.

Stating whether continuing as a sole trader or converting to a limited company is good or bad for tax purposes cannot really be answered without having somne figures to work with - there are so many permutations and variables to take into account these days that the calculations are quite complex and unique to a particular individual's circumstances.

In theory, your accountant sould be able to carry out some calculations for your wife as they have trhe information already to hand.

IR35 is a bit of a red herring. IR35 is a mechanism whereby someone operating through a limited company has to account for Employer's and Employee's NI on the amounts they bill their "customer". Consequently, it doesn't relate to sole-traders. HOWEVER, sole traders can run into "IR35" type issues if it is deemed that the work they are doing for a particular customer is deemed to be as an "employee" rather than as a "self employed" indiviudal.

Conversely, if a sole trader is working for a customer with no "emplyee/self-employed status" issues, then, on the assumption that the same arrangements continue, changing over to a limited company should not crate an IR35 problem.


Mr Pointy

12,743 posts

180 months

One significant/massive advantage is that she won't be caught by MTD which starts in April 2026 for STs. She can also shove £60k a year into a pension as a director.

Eric Mc

124,566 posts

286 months

Mr Pointy said:
One significant/massive advantage is that she won't be caught by MTD which starts in April 2026 for STs. She can also shove £60k a year into a pension as a director.
Good point about MTD. I've suggested incorporation to some clients for this advantage alone.

JQ

Original Poster:

6,532 posts

200 months

Thanks for all the advice.

What are the disadvantages of MTD? She already has a similar system in place - all bookings are made either via a virtual secretary or via her website and paid for in advance, so she's not dealing with cash - so all her income is already being tracked (by herself admittedly).

IJWS15

2,097 posts

106 months

If she has hundreds of clients she won’t be caught by IR35.

I am not a tax accountant.

Jockman

18,329 posts

181 months

Ltd can be useful for maximising household income rather than just personal income, so your financial affairs would be of interest to her.

Also useful for maximising pension contributions.

JQ

Original Poster:

6,532 posts

200 months

Jockman said:
Ltd can be useful for maximising household income rather than just personal income, so your financial affairs would be of interest to her.

Also useful for maximising pension contributions.
I think that ship may have sailed - unfortunately / fortunately I'm a top rate tax payer, so there's little help I can offer. And our 17yr old already has a part-time job (earning decent money) and our 16yr old has just applied for a job with his brother's employer. I presume that's how you maximise household income, if not, I'm all ears as to what else we could do?

And I'm not sure she'd want to increase her pension any further - she has a NHS pension and also pays into a private one.

Eric Mc

124,566 posts

286 months

JQ said:
Thanks for all the advice.

What are the disadvantages of MTD? She already has a similar system in place - all bookings are made either via a virtual secretary or via her website and paid for in advance, so she's not dealing with cash - so all her income is already being tracked (by herself admittedly).
None - to be honest.

It's a new requirement coming into effect on 6 April 2026 for sole traders to upload to HMRC every calendar quarter their trading data. For tax year 2026/27, traders with gross income (sales/fees) over £50,000 MUST comply. For 2027/28 the threshold is reduced to £30,000 and from 2027/28 the threshold is further reduced to £20,000.

If she is already using a HMRC approved MTD compatible software, then she is in a good place as "all" she has to do is register for MTD and start uploading her quarterly data at the required time.

Eric Mc

124,566 posts

286 months

IJWS15 said:
If she has hundreds of clients she won t be caught by IR35.

I am not a tax accountant.
Very obviously.

Having "hundreds of clients" is helpful for avoiding IR35 - but it's no guarantee.

Jockman

18,329 posts

181 months

Looks like you're on the ball.

Not Limited related, but just tell her to keep an eye on vat thresholds. It can be a PITA for those at that level.

Jockman

18,329 posts

181 months

On the MTD subject, my daughter has been sent details from her Monzo Business Account about it being ready for MTD ??

I'll need to look into this with her but if correct then it could prove useful.