Qashqai chain - fix or sell?
Qashqai chain - fix or sell?
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whizz011

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2 posts

1 month

Thursday 15th January
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Hi all,

Looking for some balanced advice please.

We’ve got a 2018 Nissan Qashqai which we’re planning to sell shortly after its MOT in February.
About a month ago, the car ran very low on oil and briefly showed a low oil pressure warning. We topped it up straight away and the warning went away. Couple of days ago, we noticed a rhythmic ticking noise.
A local mechanic has listened to it and believes it’s timing chain related (possibly chain/tensioner). They’ve quoted £1,300 for a timing chain replacement.

As we were planning to sell the car soon, i'm torn between:

Fixing it before selling

Selling it as-is and taking the hit on price

I’d really appreciate views

Mileage is around 69000, engine is 1.2 petrol

Thanks in advance.

Truckosaurus

12,841 posts

306 months

Thursday 15th January
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I'd be shameless and take it around to WBAC and hope they don't notice the noise....

paul_c123

1,690 posts

15 months

Thursday 15th January
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Sell as-is, take the hit. There WILL be a hit, every trader knows to check the chain on a Qashqai.....

ThingsBehindTheSun

2,944 posts

53 months

Thursday 15th January
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Terrible engine, reknowned for oil usage and timing chain issues. Why did the oil run low, I assume it has been burnt by the engine?

scot_aln

675 posts

221 months

Thursday 15th January
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Depends how you want to sell it. If it's being sold privately then fixed you've got an open market. If you sell it faulty then you are in for a entirely different collection of prospective buyers.

macron

12,619 posts

188 months

Thursday 15th January
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Isn't think as simple as looking on the bay of lies and see what things sell for when in need of a chain, and then work out the way you'll intend to shift it and the price then?

Anyone knows if you sell with a new chain it isn't some sort of benefit, it's not done because you want to spunk £1300 on routine maintenance (esp at those modest miles) but because something's gone Pete Tong. So it's not like having it done will increase the price/ value to a buyer..


ThingsBehindTheSun

2,944 posts

53 months

Thursday 15th January
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macron said:
Anyone knows if you sell with a new chain it isn't some sort of benefit, it's not done because you want to spunk £1300 on routine maintenance (esp at those modest miles) but because something's gone Pete Tong. So it's not like having it done will increase the price/ value to a buyer..

As someone who knows a bit about these engines, knowing it had just had a chain fitted and the owner was now trying to get rid of it would be a massive red flag. It clearly shows the engine has gone wrong, the owner paid to fix it but is now getting shot as they have zero confidence in the car and know it is a ticking time bomb.

Not that I would buy a car with this engine in the first place, it is up there with the 2.0 diesel Ingenium, the 1.0 Ecoboost and 1.2 Puretech.



ACCYSTAN

1,270 posts

143 months

Thursday 15th January
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Indeed

Is this the same engine that’s found in Renault, Dacia and Mercedes vehicles?

Jag_NE

3,300 posts

122 months

Thursday 15th January
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ThingsBehindTheSun said:
macron said:
Anyone knows if you sell with a new chain it isn't some sort of benefit, it's not done because you want to spunk £1300 on routine maintenance (esp at those modest miles) but because something's gone Pete Tong. So it's not like having it done will increase the price/ value to a buyer..

As someone who knows a bit about these engines, knowing it had just had a chain fitted and the owner was now trying to get rid of it would be a massive red flag. It clearly shows the engine has gone wrong, the owner paid to fix it but is now getting shot as they have zero confidence in the car and know it is a ticking time bomb.

Not that I would buy a car with this engine in the first place, it is up there with the 2.0 diesel Ingenium, the 1.0 Ecoboost and 1.2 Puretech.
He doesnt need to call it out? I'd say he is being a pretty decent seller if he gets the issue fixed and is putting a full ticket on it At the same time, a buyer of an old qashqai probably has a low interest in anything beyond paintwork and boot size.

ThingsBehindTheSun

2,944 posts

53 months

Thursday 15th January
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ACCYSTAN said:
Indeed

Is this the same engine that s found in Renault, Dacia and Mercedes vehicles?
Not Mercedes I don't think, they use the infinitely better Renault 1.3 TCE.

ilikejam

1,185 posts

138 months

Thursday 15th January
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I don't know anything about Qashqais, but I just got the chain done on my 2015 V40 at a Volvo main dealer for £750. Volvo notoriously expensive for servicing etc so £1300 seems extreme

scot_aln

675 posts

221 months

Thursday 15th January
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ilikejam said:
I don't know anything about Qashqais, but I just got the chain done on my 2015 V40 at a Volvo main dealer for £750. Volvo notoriously expensive for servicing etc so £1300 seems extreme
Is the Volvo not a belt rather than a chain?

Belle427

11,165 posts

255 months

Thursday 15th January
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No point in fixing really if it runs and drives ok, I would just part ex it or wbac it.
We had an Xtrail that lunched its engine and cost us a lot of money to get it fixed, it was part exchanged a few days later and we took the hit on it.

AddyT.

363 posts

115 months

Thursday 15th January
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Wouldn't fix it in IMO as it's not worth it.

This goes back to something a colleague told me the other day as having my own car woes at the moment. He has a close friend who works for a car manufacturer (and has for a long time) and told him that anything over 8 years old, generally speaking for mass produced cars, will have issues. Kinda made sense when he said it and I am not doing it justice on exactly what he said. Took it with a slight pinch of salt until my 9 year old (low mileage) car refused to start on Christmas Day and immediately remembered what he said.

This of course does not apply across the board but was quite telling for me coming from someone who works for a manufacturer. If more clarity needed, more than happy to get it smile

LightweightLouisDanvers

2,693 posts

65 months

Friday 16th January
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Throw a gallon of 20w50 into it and off to wbac!

Lester H

3,921 posts

127 months

Sunday 18th January
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AddyT. said:
Wouldn't fix it in IMO as it's not worth it.

This goes back to something a colleague told me the other day as having my own car woes at the moment. He has a close friend who works for a car manufacturer (and has for a long time) and told him that anything over 8 years old, generally speaking for mass produced cars, will have issues. Kinda made sense when he said it and I am not doing it justice on exactly what he said. Took it with a slight pinch of salt until my 9 year old (low mileage) car refused to start on Christmas Day and immediately remembered what he said.

This of course does not apply across the board but was quite telling for me coming from someone who works for a manufacturer. If more clarity needed, more than happy to get it smile
A very interesting post about the durability of ordinary cars. However, if an everyday car, especially a relatively basic one without too many bells and whistles, is serviced as required and kept fairly clean all round, not necessarily in a garage - that can be overrated unless you have a fully dry and ventilated one- it should be good for more than 80k especially if what dealers love to call sensible mileage ie neither starship nor the proverbial little old lady pottering to church. If she really exists, but may have been murdered in an Agatha Christie twee drama.. As suggested, the durable cars will tend to be simpler ones and if you walk through a middle class Home Counties commuter suburb, or, say Harrogate or Dore Sheffield further north, not only will you spot some seriously posh stuff but also many elderly Polos, Micras, Pandas, Fiestas , small Korean runabouts, etc. They can t all be about to expire.

Edited by Lester H on Sunday 18th January 15:49


Edited by Lester H on Sunday 18th January 15:59

7 5 7

4,133 posts

133 months

Sunday 18th January
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Get two more opinions and quotes on the timing chain (potential) and fix it would be me, what was the reason for selling it, of course there doesn't need to be a reason, but a 2018 car is a brand new car to me.

These Cashcows are very popular cars, so I think it's worth fixing it personally.

georgeyboy12345

4,159 posts

57 months

Sunday 18th January
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If it’s still working I’d offload it via PX or WBAC before it fails completely

ACCYSTAN

1,270 posts

143 months

Sunday 18th January
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georgeyboy12345 said:
If it s still working I d offload it via PX or WBAC before it fails completely
Luck of the draw with WBAC if the inspector knows their onions.

Some do, some don’t.


stevemcs

9,886 posts

115 months

Sunday 18th January
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georgeyboy12345 said:
If it s still working I d offload it via PX or WBAC before it fails completely
Then in 2 months time there will be a post about how someone has purchased a car from a dealer and the it needs a new engine and then everyone will be posting about consumer rights and going to citizen advice and that all dealers are corrupt and rip people off........................