BBC strike landmark deal with YouTube

[Leon R]

Basically the BBC have struck a deal with YouTube to broadcast on the platform.

https://www.ft.com/content/cdcfbec7-1472-4161-a29f...

Be interesting to see what that does in regards to license fee requirements.

[vaud]

Leon R said:

Basically the BBC have struck a deal with YouTube to broadcast on the platform.

https://www.ft.com/content/cdcfbec7-1472-4161-a29f...

Be interesting to see what that does in regards to license fee requirements.

It does say "unique shows" which might imply that they won't be available on domestic TV?

[NDA]

The government regard YouTube as social media - which could be banned for under 16's under government plans.

[Super Sonic]

Leon R said:

Basically the BBC have struck a deal with YouTube to broadcast on the platform.

https://www.ft.com/content/cdcfbec7-1472-4161-a29f...

Be interesting to see what that does in regards to license fee requirements.

Hmmm I wonder if the BBC are going to try and insist you will now need a telly licence for YouTube 'as it's got BBC om'

[fooman]

Super Sonic said:

Leon R said:

Basically the BBC have struck a deal with YouTube to broadcast on the platform.

https://www.ft.com/content/cdcfbec7-1472-4161-a29f...

Be interesting to see what that does in regards to license fee requirements.

Hmmm I wonder if the BBC are going to try and insist you will now need a telly licence for YouTube 'as it's got BBC om'

I don't think that's the play, rather they are worried about losing a generation for whom watching TV means primarily firing up YouTube. It'll be ad supported (or premium) like any other content, the main benefit to the been will be raising their profile for that generation in the hope they become subscribers.

[JagLover]

This reminds me to mention you can view Father Ted on YouTube.

Hopefully we will get all the old classics on there before too long and all ad free so long as you have Premium.

[RSTurboPaul]

NDA said:

The government regard YouTube as social media - which could be banned for under 16's under government plans.

That's alright - the 'voluntary' Digital ID they want to give to everyone, from new born babies upwards, so they can 'stop the boats', will be mandatory and required able to permit access to age-approved material.

[Evolved]

fooman said:

Super Sonic said:

Leon R said:

Basically the BBC have struck a deal with YouTube to broadcast on the platform.

https://www.ft.com/content/cdcfbec7-1472-4161-a29f...

Be interesting to see what that does in regards to license fee requirements.

Hmmm I wonder if the BBC are going to try and insist you will now need a telly licence for YouTube 'as it's got BBC om'

I don't think that's the play, rather they are worried about losing a generation for whom watching TV means primarily firing up YouTube. It'll be ad supported (or premium) like any other content, the main benefit to the been will be raising their profile for that generation in the hope they become subscribers.

I’d lean more toward it being 100% their play. They have lost an unfathomable amount of license payers over the past few years, and they have no way to legitimately recoup it other than by way of forcing a fee to be payable. The BBC are a hateful organisation but have the governments backing, so watch this space.

I already pay for YT Premium as I get so much out of the platform, the content suits my tastes and the music side of the app is a bonus as I cancelled Spotify once I was using YT. I”d hate for a back door license fee to become a thing, but time will tell I suppose.

Edited by Evolved on Saturday 17th January 08:10

[rider73]

You don't pay a licence fee only because you watch BBC , if YouTube is showing something live then you have to pay the licence fee, same with any streaming service.....afaik

[Evolved]

rider73 said:

You don't pay a licence fee only because you watch BBC , if YouTube is showing something live then you have to pay the licence fee, same with any streaming service.....afaik

I realise this, and that’s the current ‘law’, but whenever there’s a shift like this, it usually means a change is being ushered in. The BBC, in its current format and with its reliance on the license fee as it stands, has no chance of survival. They can’t ‘force’ people to pay, but, much like the government, when they want something implemented, it’s usually done through the back door.

[Carl_VivaEspana]

vaud said:

It does say "unique shows" which might imply that they won't be available on domestic TV?

Dad's will know, apart from Bluey (which has a very successful YouTube licencing arrangement) it's actually quite difficult to get any cbeebies and CBBC programming abroad without iPlayer and a VPN.

Based on the article it looks like this will change first and the kids will be able to get some very good Cbeebies/CBBC content via YouTube.

The BBC does need to change but much of its kids programming is world class.

[vaud]

Love Bluey.

And Octonauts, Hey Duggee (including the one with the homage to Apocalypse Now), Sarah and Duck, etc

All top quality. I learned things from Octonauts!

[21TonyK]

rider73 said:

You don't pay a licence fee only because you watch BBC , if YouTube is showing something live then you have to pay the licence fee, same with any streaming service.....afaik

So hang on, you are supposed to pay a license fee if you watch live stuff on Netflix etc all?

Not heard that before.

Edited by 21TonyK on Saturday 17th January 10:11

[rider73]

21TonyK said:

rider73 said:

You don't pay a licence fee only because you watch BBC , if YouTube is showing something live then you have to pay the licence fee, same with any streaming service.....afaik

So hang on, you are supposed to pay a license fee if you watch live stuff on Netflix etc all?

Not heard that before.

Edited by 21TonyK on Saturday 17th January 10:11

I believe so, it's on the TV license website
Any live broadcast of you watch it on anything in the UK, you pay

[spikyone]

21TonyK said:

rider73 said:

You don't pay a licence fee only because you watch BBC , if YouTube is showing something live then you have to pay the licence fee, same with any streaming service.....afaik

So hang on, you are supposed to pay a license fee if you watch live stuff on Netflix etc all?

Not heard that before.

Edited by 21TonyK on Saturday 17th January 10:11

Yes, anything live requires a licence. Whether TV Licensing have any way whatsoever to prove that you've watched live TV over streaming is quite another matter. They have no way to find out whether you're watching anything live unless you tell them. I imagine for their content on YT, at worst it would be the same "I have a TV licence" tick box that they have for iPlayer (haven't used that in years but I think it hasn't changed?).

[JagLover]

rider73 said:

I believe so, it's on the TV license website
Any live broadcast of you watch it on anything in the UK, you pay

Yes any live broadcast on any platform, including recording it as it is broadcast live. Live tennis on Amazon Prime for example. Netflix also have a number of live shows.

That plus watching the Iplayer.

I don't have a licence because I don't require one, but it is important to know all the rules. Though how they would check is another matter I suppose.

[21TonyK]

rider73 said:

21TonyK said:

rider73 said:

You don't pay a licence fee only because you watch BBC , if YouTube is showing something live then you have to pay the licence fee, same with any streaming service.....afaik

So hang on, you are supposed to pay a license fee if you watch live stuff on Netflix etc all?

Not heard that before.

Edited by 21TonyK on Saturday 17th January 10:11

I believe so, it's on the TV license website
Any live broadcast of you watch it on anything in the UK, you pay

Learn something every day.

I have no objection to paying a license fee, I watch and listen to a lot of BBC content. If however I only watched non-BBC content, live or not, I would not be paying a BBC license fee.

[Russet Grange]

JagLover said:

Yes any live broadcast on any platform, including recording it as it is broadcast live. Live tennis on Amazon Prime for example. Netflix also have a number of live shows.

That plus watching the Iplayer.

I don't have a licence because I don't require one, but it is important to know all the rules. Though how they would check is another matter I suppose.

The word "broadcast" is the important bit here, and there is a world of content that you can watch live in the UK with no requirement for a TV licence. For example, you don't need a licence to watch things like Twitch, because that's a live stream and not a regulated TV channel. Same with today's NASA rollout of Artemis II. Not regulated by Ofcom, NASA is not a UK regulated broadcaster, no licence required.

However, if the BBC carried that stream on iPlayer then you would need a TV licence to watch via that platform.

[The Gauge]

I regard the TV licence fee to be perhaps the best value purchase there is. If you need a licence to watch TV then I'm front of the queue.
I don't understand what the fuss is about with those who object.

[JagLover]

The Gauge said:

I regard the TV licence fee to be perhaps the best value purchase there is. If you need a licence to watch TV then I'm front of the queue.
I don't understand what the fuss is about with those who object.

The fuss is because I do not watch any BBC programming.

Go back a dozen years and there was Top Gear, MOTD, Planet Earth and many movies they might be showing over the year. Go back a number of years before that and you would add many popular sitcoms and soaps. Now there is virtually nothing aside from sports coverage of Olympics and Wimbledon which is the only thing I miss.

For it to be of value it would have to provide something worth watching.