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BMW M5 (E39) | PH Private Area

PH's favourite saloon, with one keeper for almost a quarter of a century - form an orderly queue...


In truth, there’s probably not a lot more to say about the E39 generation of BMW M5. After all, it was voted best saloon for PH25 back in 2023, and if anything, the love for the original V8 M5 has only strengthened since the arrival of the first hybrid M5. It would be fair to say that not everyone loves that one. 

But E39? Always has been a crowd pleaser, always will be a crowd pleaser. When it was new, it was usefully more modern (and more powerful) than the E34 that preceded it; subsequent models, with modes and automated manuals, made the E39 look pleasingly traditional. To drive one today is to know true contentment, because you really want for nothing behind the wheel of an early-'00s M5 (besides some better brakes): there’s just the right amount of power, performance, grip, sound, excitement, refinement - everything. 

Which is quite some achievement, really, given the first E39 M5s were assembled in the late 20th century, and the base 5 Series was first launched 30 years ago. Turns out it really was that good. But with age inevitably comes worry, for cars and for people. With the very best M5s up at £50k and none less than £20k, you’ll want to know everything about its history. Trouble being that, more than a quarter of a century after launch - and with cars once as cheap as £6k - plenty of E39s have been through lots of owners and not necessarily lots of maintenance. It’s a problem with a lot of once-affordable modern classics that have enjoyed some appreciation of late, and the last thing you’d want is a neglected M5. That’ll take the shine off a super-saloon hero pretty quick. 

So how about this one? It’s being sold by the same PHer who bought it new in 2002, which is incredible. Just in case any further proof was required of the effect E39 M5s can have, here it is - 24 years of ownership. Originally purchased by the seller’s company as his car while he was MD, he bought it as his own in 2006, where it’s remained ever since. Sold brand new at Malton Motors BMW, it’s been serviced exclusively at BMW ever since, with 111,000 miles now showing. So there are lots of lovely stamps.

Naturally, the old thing looks glorious: Le Mans Blue is arguably the best colour for these, the wheels are spot-on, and the wood inside is still smart. It isn’t perfect, mind: the seller notes some corrosion to address around the rear arches, and the leather is tired. For a modern motorist who isn’t too bothered about originality, an updated head unit would probably be more useful than the standard screen and a Nokia phone holder.

That being said, the MOT is advisory free until October, and it’s one of the more affordable E39s on PH; if this M5 is one of those hero cars to tick off your must-own list (and it really should be on there), then this must be the ideal example. Used enough to continue being enjoyed and loved enough to carry on cherishing, it looks a good’n alright. We’ll look forward to seeing it for sale on PH again come 2050…


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Wolfie87

Original Poster:

330 posts

224 months

This could be the perfect E39 M5. So long as you want to use it and not moth ball it like some many collectable cars seem to be these days.

Fair play to the original owner for putting some decent miles on it!

I hope who ever buys it keeps it running tip top and doubles that mileage again!

Venisonpie

4,389 posts

103 months

Er, those seats haven't worn the modest mileage well.

200Plus Club

12,772 posts

299 months

Venisonpie said:
Er, those seats haven't worn the modest mileage well.
Steering wheel and gearnob also.

Gad-Westy

16,116 posts

234 months

200Plus Club said:
Venisonpie said:
Er, those seats haven't worn the modest mileage well.
Steering wheel and gearnob also.
It’s a little weird as our old E39 528i seats looked fantastic after considerably more miles. Does depend a bit on typical use case though.

Strange how different the silver wheel finish makes the car look. I rarely like dark wheels but somehow the E39 seems wrong without the shadow chrome.

TrevorHill

559 posts

12 months

It seems well priced, these were a brilliant car in their time. The leather is just about a quarter of a century old, a good refresh should have it looking like new.

Night Owl

331 posts

3 months

M logo missing on pictured wheel. Nit picking, of course, but to me, stuff like that always communicates that the owner really didn't care about the car as much as you'd probably have wanted them to.

86wasagoodyear

830 posts

117 months

Oh my days. That's lovely.

David87

6,940 posts

233 months

Night Owl said:
M logo missing on pictured wheel. Nit picking, of course, but to me, stuff like that always communicates that the owner really didn't care about the car as much as you'd probably have wanted them to.
Yep. I'm out. Painted the wrong colour too.

AlexGSi2000

682 posts

215 months

Buyers market at the moment I reckon.

On the money I would have said.

Wheels appear to have been refurbished though, they don't look like shadow chrome to me - however given the age I suppose its expected.

J4CKO

45,491 posts

221 months

David87 said:
Night Owl said:
M logo missing on pictured wheel. Nit picking, of course, but to me, stuff like that always communicates that the owner really didn't care about the car as much as you'd probably have wanted them to.
Yep. I'm out. Painted the wrong colour too.
Maybe they preferred silver wheels ?

It looks a mostly lovely example and not that ridiculously expensive, wouldnt worry too much about the colour of the wheels, or even the slightly ropey looking seats, as its probably £500 to get the wheels repainted and another £500 to get the leather reconditioned.

Main stuff is, is there any rust underneath, are the oily bits and is the paint ok ? Is it a car with decent suspension, brakes, working Vanos, no oil leaks etc, or is it a rolling money pit, a few cosmetics wouldnt bother me but those things would.

If its solid, seems good value, and oh my these are good looking, I am not one for over eulogising older models but given a choice, this or the current one, this every time. I know they new one is faster, more valuable etc etc, dont care. With this and the E46, I think BMW styling peaked, and I include stuff like the original six series in that.

Hippea

3,005 posts

90 months

I bet that rust is way worse than it looks

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,542 posts

119 months

I sold mine which I bought from new back in the day with 150,000 miles on it after about 5 years. Interior didn't look so worn as this one does. Maybe time doesn't help.

Always thought these were good cars but not the "Greatest car ever" that people seem to now describe them. Like it or not, cars have progressed and a current gen M340i, which is a similar size, would run rings around it

WPA

13,240 posts

135 months

Lovely car that could be used and enjoyed

Alex_225

7,298 posts

222 months

I do love the E39 M5 I must say. Back in 2014 I was on the hunt for a hefty German barge around the £20k mark and the E39 was a possibility along with the V10 M6 and latterly the Merc CLS63. I didn't go for the E39 and financially the E39 would have been the only one to likely appreciate in that time! haha.

Still love these and this example could be one that you'd still be use regularly without it affecting it's value greatly, as it's a well used example. I think the E39 as a vehicle, M5 or not is such a great looking BMW.

AlexGSi2000

682 posts

215 months

BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
I sold mine which I bought from new back in the day with 150,000 miles on it after about 5 years. Interior didn't look so worn as this one does. Maybe time doesn't help.

Always thought these were good cars but not the "Greatest car ever" that people seem to now describe them. Like it or not, cars have progressed and a current gen M340i, which is a similar size, would run rings around it
Most recent BMW stuff would run rings around it, my f11 530d would probably show my e39 a clean pair of heels, hell - a fiesta ST would probably give it a good run. But its not all about performance.

CharverDeeksWorth

793 posts

160 months

Bloke a street over from me has one. De badged it, badly, left all the glue on there and it rarely seems to move from the kerb.

I nearly made him an offer for it the other day.

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,542 posts

119 months

AlexGSi2000 said:
BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
I sold mine which I bought from new back in the day with 150,000 miles on it after about 5 years. Interior didn't look so worn as this one does. Maybe time doesn't help.

Always thought these were good cars but not the "Greatest car ever" that people seem to now describe them. Like it or not, cars have progressed and a current gen M340i, which is a similar size, would run rings around it
Most recent BMW stuff would run rings around it, my f11 530d would probably show my e39 a clean pair of heels, hell - a fiesta ST would probably give it a good run. But its not all about performance.
Agree - but it's not only in performance that it would run rings around it. NVH, economy, room, tech, reliability - other than the fact the M5 has a manual gearbox ( and not a particularly nice one ), in what area is an M5 better ?

J4CKO

45,491 posts

221 months

AlexGSi2000 said:
BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
I sold mine which I bought from new back in the day with 150,000 miles on it after about 5 years. Interior didn't look so worn as this one does. Maybe time doesn't help.

Always thought these were good cars but not the "Greatest car ever" that people seem to now describe them. Like it or not, cars have progressed and a current gen M340i, which is a similar size, would run rings around it
Most recent BMW stuff would run rings around it, my f11 530d would probably show my e39 a clean pair of heels, hell - a fiesta ST would probably give it a good run. But its not all about performance.
Your F11 wouldnt show it a "clean pair of heels" being 150 bhp down and heavier, the M5 driver would have to work hard but its a quicker car assuming both are standard and in good order, AWD and an auto box vs RWD and manual will help, but not enought to address being less powerful and marginally heavier.

Neither would an ST as standard, my modified track one would likely be quicker but dont think a standard one would be in with a shout having had one.



Edited by J4CKO on Wednesday 21st January 10:12

AlexGSi2000

682 posts

215 months

BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
Agree - but it's not only in performance that it would run rings around it. NVH, economy, room, tech, reliability - other than the fact the M5 has a manual gearbox ( and not a particularly nice one ), in what area is an M5 better ?
I'm not saying its better in any respect really - and I agree with what you are saying regarding the attributes above.

For me, they are an object that excite me in so many ways, the noise, the feel, the smell of the interior.etc
My father had an e39 528i, whenever I sit in my e39 it instantly transports me back to being that 8 year old child, with the added advantage of me being able to drive one now smile
Then there is driving it - very old school feeling whereby I feel involved resulting in greater satisfaction and pleasure.

AlexGSi2000

682 posts

215 months

J4CKO said:
Your F11 wouldnt show it a "clean pair of heels" being 150 bhp down and heavier, the M5 driver would have to work hard but its a quicker car assuming both are standard and in good order, AWD and an auto box vs RWD and manual will help, but not enought to address being less powerful and marginally heavier.

Neither would an ST as standard, my modified track one would likely be quicker but dont think a standard one would be in with a shout having had one.



Edited by J4CKO on Wednesday 21st January 10:12
Standard maybe, but not in this case.