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There are some really beautiful planes in the world but what would be the fighter that you would choose? Personally I believe I would go for www.ilmavoimat.fi/index.php?id=168or this;
It´s a american Boeing F-18C and F-18D Hornet typed fighter. This plane comes one and two seated.
>> Edited by Jonna_Rex on Monday 10th October 09:04
It´s a american Boeing F-18C and F-18D Hornet typed fighter. This plane comes one and two seated.
>> Edited by Jonna_Rex on Monday 10th October 09:04
Please don't call them "Boeing" F-18s. I know they are now built under the Boeing name but the design has nothing to do with Boeing. They were originally (from 1978 to 1997) made by the McDonnell Douglas Corporation. Boeing took over McDD in 1997.
In fact, the F-18 evolved out of the Northrop F-17 fighter which flew in 1973 and which lost out to the General Dynamics (NOT Lockheed Martin) F-16 in a huge order for the USAF.
In fact, the F-18 evolved out of the Northrop F-17 fighter which flew in 1973 and which lost out to the General Dynamics (NOT Lockheed Martin) F-16 in a huge order for the USAF.
I've have a wee little Harrier... Would save me a shedload on property, although fuel would hit me a bit... Don't know why I like em.. Not very fast, (reletively), but they are great little planes. I actually know feck all about planes, but any sub-sonic fighter than can take on super-sonic Miragey things and batter them senseless is alright by me! 
(Awaits to be correctede despite my complete lack of knowledge of planey flying type things...
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(Awaits to be correctede despite my complete lack of knowledge of planey flying type things...
)Jonna_Rex said:
Please don't call them "Boeing" F-18s. I know they are now built under the Boeing name but the design has nothing to do with Boeing. They were originally (from 1978 to 1997) made by the McDonnell Douglas Corporation. Boeing took over McDD in 1997.
In fact, the F-18 evolved out of the Northrop F-17 fighter which flew in 1973 and which lost out to the General Dynamics (NOT Lockheed Martin) F-16 in a huge order for the USAF.
Your right, the head work was done elsewhere even it carries the Boeing name. So what´s your favourite one Eric? Someone on the other thread meantioned you were a walking plane encyclopedia?
Yertis - More or less.
Northrop thought that the F-17 was finished once the F-16 won the USAF fly-off contest in 1974/75. However, like the USAF (who needed F-16s to supplement the much more expensive F-15), the US Navy realised that they could not afford all the F-14 Tomcats they needed. They therefore decided that they needed a simpler, cheaper design too. They rejected the F-16 out of hand because it was single engined. They thought the F-17 (being twin engined) had potential but it was a lightweight land based fighter and would need serious beefing up for naval use. Northrop did not have extensive experience in designing carrier borne aircraft so they teamed up with McDonnell Douglas to redesign the F-17 for carrier operations. The resultant aircaft emerged as the F-18.
In fact, the co-operation between Northrop and McDonnell Douglas was relatively short lived, In the end, after acourt case, McDonnell Douglas took over the whole project and paid a settlement to Northrop.
Ironically, the new "Soper Hornet" (the F-18E) will eventually replace completely the remaining F-14 Tomcats.
>> Edited by Eric Mc on Monday 10th October 09:31
Northrop thought that the F-17 was finished once the F-16 won the USAF fly-off contest in 1974/75. However, like the USAF (who needed F-16s to supplement the much more expensive F-15), the US Navy realised that they could not afford all the F-14 Tomcats they needed. They therefore decided that they needed a simpler, cheaper design too. They rejected the F-16 out of hand because it was single engined. They thought the F-17 (being twin engined) had potential but it was a lightweight land based fighter and would need serious beefing up for naval use. Northrop did not have extensive experience in designing carrier borne aircraft so they teamed up with McDonnell Douglas to redesign the F-17 for carrier operations. The resultant aircaft emerged as the F-18.
In fact, the co-operation between Northrop and McDonnell Douglas was relatively short lived, In the end, after acourt case, McDonnell Douglas took over the whole project and paid a settlement to Northrop.
Ironically, the new "Soper Hornet" (the F-18E) will eventually replace completely the remaining F-14 Tomcats.
>> Edited by Eric Mc on Monday 10th October 09:31
Regarding Harriers, the fighter versions of the Harrier in service with the Royal Navy are seeing out their final days too. The vast bulk of Harriers built were actually bombers, not fighters.
The vast majority were also built by McDonnell Douglas (Boeing now, of course) and not the British manufacturers (Hawkers/Hawker Siddeley/British Aerospace/BAE Systems).
The vast majority were also built by McDonnell Douglas (Boeing now, of course) and not the British manufacturers (Hawkers/Hawker Siddeley/British Aerospace/BAE Systems).
wolves_wanderer said:
I think the YF-23 is the best looking fighter ever. It was built by Northrop to enter the contest for the US next generation warplane, it lost but I think it's the sexiest plane around.
When I see planes like that I wonder why we're bothering with Eurofighter - it looks like it belongs to the previous generation, like the Gloster Gladiator in 1938.
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