RE: Jaguar I-Pace | PH Fleet
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Christmas charging confusion reigns - but Matt Bird is still tickled pink with his battery-powered family mover


When researching our family EV, we knew that the Jaguar I-Pace wasn’t the fastest charging option. In fact, it was probably the slowest, with a DC maximum rating of just 100kW. Everything on the MEB architecture boasts more capacity, while the E-GMP Hyundais and Kias are said to be capable of a 200kW+ figure. While we all want the best of everything for the least investment possible when buying secondhand, charging was a compromise we were happy to accept with the Jag, knowing that the majority of time spent plugged in would be at home. 

Not exclusively, however, and when back visiting family in Suffolk we are at the mercy of the public network. Which, in fairness, has improved even around there, with a Tesla Supercharger close to where we stay that works flawlessly. With a few days spent there over the festive period, charging hadn’t even been a consideration - because it always just works. Even range and efficiency hadn’t plummeted in colder, darker, wetter conditions, the trip computer generally suggesting about 2.5mi/kWh where it tends to be nearer three. Nothing to be proud of in the days of 4mi/kWh claims with more power and similar weight from much newer cars, but still manageable. 

So when it came to eventually needing replenishment, I scooted off to the Supercharger as usual. Plugged in, tapped, watched, waited… and waited. And waited. Usually the charger would've delivered almost the car’s maximum 100kW; now it was hovering around 35kW. With nobody else using a unit on the four-charger bank. It eventually dribbled over 40kW, but when you’re expecting more than double that, it means a lot of time on a forecourt. Reading a book in peace and not being asked about when more presents are coming, sure, but there are definitely better uses of time at Christmas. 

The next day was a similar result, and another attempt with others plugged in even worse. I was convinced that the charger was faulty, so at the fourth time of asking I checked what the other cars were pulling in terms of kW: every single one better the I-Pace, with a high score of 140kW from a Volvo EX40. The charger wasn’t the problem - the car was. Ah.

Despite not being unbearably cold outside, the mercury was sufficiently low (and the driving sufficiently sedate) for the battery to stay outside its optimum temperature window. There isn’t a temp display, but clearly the Jag wasn’t warming up, so couldn’t charge anywhere near its best. Stupidly, I’d never really considered that before, probably being more worried about outright range than cold charging. But without a heat pump or any way of preconditioning the battery for rapid charging, it’s going to be a fact of I-Pace life going forward. 

Some forum threads from properly chilly climes have thrown up drastic measures, such as sacrificing some state of charge on the way to a DC charger by accelerating and braking as hard as possible. That warms up the battery, and any predicted range lost on the way is quickly recouped by faster charging than if driven normally. Obviously that’s not something to condone, or even attempt, though it goes to show how important a warm battery is. And why a heat pump, where offered, is probably a wise option to have. When you just want to get home in a car full of Christmas crap, watching electrons trickle in (or whatever the right saying is) really does grate. There are only so many sausage rolls you can eat. 

Nevertheless, despite showing its age somewhat in terms of battery tech, the Jaguar remains completely charming company. I’ll continue to praise the interior, because it remains stylish, luxurious, spacious and easy to use. It is more than five years since the I-Pace got its Pivi Pro update, and even with the car no longer in production it’s a really good dash, keeping those buttons that new Range Rovers so stupidly do without.

It swallowed all our Christmas clobber with ease, was comfy enough at a cruise for everyone who wanted to sleep to do so, and looked smart among the more conventional SUVs at softplay. I’ve always been a fan of Jaguar's first EV from brief exposure when it was new, and owning one has only increased my fondness. It would be fair to say I wasn’t 100 per cent sure that would happen...


FACT SHEET 

Car: 2021 Jaguar I-Pace HSE
Run by: Matt Bird
On fleet since: August 2025
Bought for: £21,700
Mileage: 43,645
Last month at a glance: Crappy cold charging

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Discussion

GTEYE

Original Poster:

2,349 posts

231 months

Do we predict it’ll be gone within months?

Stories like that certainly don’t make me yearn for an EV.

PRO5T

6,768 posts

46 months

It seems strange to not tell us how long the charging took in an article moaning about how long the charging took smile

Honeywell

1,604 posts

119 months

A Tesla Model3 of similar age and less price would have a heat pump, charge at 130kWh and achieve 4.2 miles per kilowatt. I know as I've got one,

Why does anyone buy any other EV?

tamore

9,279 posts

305 months

GTEYE said:
Do we predict it ll be gone within months?

Stories like that certainly don t make me yearn for an EV.
i wouldn't base any decision on a 2021 i-pace. unless it's a charged at home kid taxi/ runaround.

RotorRambler

737 posts

11 months

Honeywell said:
A Tesla Model3 of similar age and less price would have a heat pump, charge at 130kWh and achieve 4.2 miles per kilowatt. I know as I've got one,

Why does anyone buy any other EV?
Probably build quality and size.
My Skoda EV has averaged over 3.5 miles per kilowatt from new 2 years ago (I bought at 6 months old) Also required a tailgate & large boot for dogs etc.

The IPace does look nice.
Great if public charger is a rarity, as it is for the majority of owners.

BrownEaredDog

1,276 posts

122 months

PRO5T said:
It seems strange to not tell us how long the charging took in an article moaning about how long the charging took smile
I think we can safely assume that it took "way too long". Doesn't put me off the iPace though, even though I can't charge at home; I've had my beady eye on one for a while, but they're they're holding their value here in Denmark frown

SDK

2,545 posts

274 months

Yep - you found the major weakness with the iPace smile

GTEYE said:
Do we predict it ll be gone within months?

Stories like that certainly don t make me yearn for an EV.
In a few months it will be warmer, so won’t be such an issue.
There are plenty of other EV’s of the same age out there which don’t suffer this problem. E.g. My 2020 Polestar 2 had battery pre-conditioning for charging, so it wouldn’t be slow when cold.



Edited by SDK on Saturday 24th January 08:13

wistec1

717 posts

62 months

Yet another reason why I will gloatingly stay with ICE.
Bought for £21700 to be faced with such disappointment is totally ste.

I could see the wife's rodent face when I ask her to get the G Force sick buckets out for the kids cos I'm warming the batteries up.

And there's me thinking I couldn't dislike EV anymore.

NO thanks.

Edited by wistec1 on Saturday 24th January 08:13

Alickadoo

3,218 posts

44 months

To a know nothing like me, these cars - used - seem to be dirt cheap!

Loads available with sensible mileages for less than £15,000. Which bit don't I understand?

SDK

2,545 posts

274 months

wistec1 said:
Yet another reason why I will gloatingly stay with ICE.
Bought for £21700 to be faced with such disappointment is totally ste.

I could see the wife's rodent face when I ask her to get the G Force sick buckets out for the kids cos I'm warming the batteries up.

And there's me thinking I couldn't dislike EV anymore.

NO thanks. [
This issue impacts a very small number of older EV’s

-> Nissan Leaf
-> Kia e-Niro
-> some pre-2022 VW EV s

Dismissing a whole sector because a tiny % of older cars have this problem, and for only a couple of months of the year, is dumb!

If you need regular faster DC in Winter you would select one of the other 99% of EV s which have battery pre-conditioning idea

Also - a little research helps smile
3 years ago : Do not buy an EV without battery pre-conditioning : https://www.reddit.com/r/electricvehicles/comments...

Edited by SDK on Saturday 24th January 08:35

J4CKO

45,510 posts

221 months

Amazing that these now start at eight grand, yes they have their issues but for ten grand you can have a smart looking modern car with 400 bhp. Bet if you go armed with cash there are deals to be done on a good number of the 700 odd for sale.

Even if you just use it more as a local runabout it’s a hell of a deal, home charger and just leave it to charge. Low running costs (if nothing breaks obviously) and it’s done most of its depreciation.

At seventy grand new two years ago, that would smart but now, what a bargain.

sixor8

7,561 posts

289 months

Honeywell said:
A Tesla Model3 of similar age and less price would have a heat pump, charge at 130kWh and achieve 4.2 miles per kilowatt. I know as I've got one,

Why does anyone buy any other EV?
There are more considerations IMHO, in having an EV.

90% of my charging is done at home so charging speed wasn't a consideration (it's a pitiful 50kWh so that Jag is NOT slow!) and the Honda eNy1 PCP deals were so good in spring 2024, I went for one.

I admit only touching 4 miles / kWh on a journey in summer but it's £211 p.m. for 3 years with free servicing and I'll hand it back. smile

ETA: I realise comparing PCP to actually buying one is different. I'm considering buying one in 2027 when it goes back, so the I-Pace is one of many out there.

Edited by sixor8 on Saturday 24th January 09:20

Slowlygettingit

849 posts

62 months

On the odd occasion we have stopped away in our ev and have needing charging it also comes with a normal domestic plug charger. Yes it’s very slow but when plugged in over night you get a good chunk of charge added without you really noticing the slow charge rate.
Bung the home owner a nice bottle of wine and everyone is a winner. (Or if they are really anal you can work out exactly how much electricity you have used and pay them accordingly - luckily none of my family or mates are that bad yet).
We even charge it off the electric hook up when we go camping and get a full battery before we head home. Although some campsites are a bit sniffy about this.
Charging ev’s is only as difficult as you make it.

tamore

9,279 posts

305 months

Slowlygettingit said:
On the odd occasion we have stopped away in our ev and have needing charging it also comes with a normal domestic plug charger. Yes it s very slow but when plugged in over night you get a good chunk of charge added without you really noticing the slow charge rate.
Bung the home owner a nice bottle of wine and everyone is a winner. (Or if they are really anal you can work out exactly how much electricity you have used and pay them accordingly - luckily none of my family or mates are that bad yet).
We even charge it off the electric hook up when we go camping and get a full battery before we head home. Although some campsites are a bit sniffy about this.
Charging ev s is only as difficult as you make it.
to be fair, if you're trampling around a lot and covering big milage via long journeys, you need to be careful about which tool you get for the job. the upcoming EV releases will make this a non issue, and indeed some of the ones already released.

mine is ste! vauxhall combo-e which has the aero of a brick, max charging is 87kWh despite them claiming 100, and range in the winter is realistically 110 miles. does the job i want it to though.

cerb4.5lee

40,724 posts

201 months

Honeywell said:
A Tesla Model3 of similar age and less price would have a heat pump, charge at 130kWh and achieve 4.2 miles per kilowatt. I know as I've got one,

Why does anyone buy any other EV?
Where do you want me to start?! hehe

tomsharp78

14 posts

67 months

Honeywell said:
A Tesla Model3 of similar age and less price would have a heat pump, charge at 130kWh and achieve 4.2 miles per kilowatt. I know as I've got one,

Why does anyone buy any other EV?

There are a number of reasons, but not giving money to a ketamine crazed right wing nut job is up there. Build quality and general look and feel are easily bettered elsewhere too.

heisthegaffer

4,019 posts

219 months

My pal has one of these, high spec one and high power. Its brilliant and he loves it. I was very impressed.

cerb4.5lee

40,724 posts

201 months

GTEYE said:
Do we predict it ll be gone within months?

Stories like that certainly don t make me yearn for an EV.
Some electric cars are still more trouble than they're worth I think, but that is improving all the time in fairness though.

I'd probably give it another 10 years and then revisit the electric idea I think.

tamore

9,279 posts

305 months

cerb4.5lee said:
GTEYE said:
Do we predict it ll be gone within months?

Stories like that certainly don t make me yearn for an EV.
Some electric cars are still more trouble than they're worth I think, but that is improving all the time in fairness though.

I'd probably give it another 10 years and then revisit the electric idea I think.
not sure you'll have much choice by then!

cerb4.5lee

40,724 posts

201 months

tamore said:
cerb4.5lee said:
GTEYE said:
Do we predict it ll be gone within months?

Stories like that certainly don t make me yearn for an EV.
Some electric cars are still more trouble than they're worth I think, but that is improving all the time in fairness though.

I'd probably give it another 10 years and then revisit the electric idea I think.
not sure you'll have much choice by then!
True! thumbup