Gas hob question

[DonkeyApple]

With a gas hob, is it likely for it to have its own isolation tap (I'm assuming so) but if so is it usually located on the hob side of the connection or the house side?

My father is home after a stroke and doing some doolally acts so am currently trying to idiot proof the house as best as possible.

[Promised Land]

Usually found under the work top behind the oven if one is below it.

[Tymb]

Might be worth checking that the gas does not flow if no flame. I think modern units have a thermal couple with an automatic gas shutoff so pretty safe. My mid 80’s unit does not have this, I have a natural gas sensor as a backup to my nose.

this one:
https://mydome.co.uk/products/canary-natural-gas-l...

[Simpo Two]

Tymb said:

Might be worth checking that the gas does not flow if no flame. I think modern units have a thermal couple with an automatic gas shutoff so pretty safe. My mid 80 s unit does not have this, I have a natural gas sensor as a backup to my nose.

It's called a flame failure device; gas hobs on boats have them in case a gust of wind blows the flame out.

[GasEngineer]

Promised Land said:

Usually found under the work top behind the oven if one is below it.

^^^ .. .and sometimes in the back of an adjacent cupboard.

[DonkeyApple]

Thanks all. Tap at the back, behind the draw. Much appreciated.

[omniflow]

I would be interested to know about any other changes you're making or planning to make.

We're planning to :

change the gas hob for induction
re-arrange the kitchen so that we can put the oven higher up
fit a Neff oven with a "hide and slide" door and rotary controls
Replace all the cupboards on the base units with drawers
Replace the taps with a single unit with a quarter turn lever and clear labelling for hot / cold
install underfloor heating

The above is obviously helped by the fact that the kitchen needs an overhaul anyway.

[DonkeyApple]

omniflow said:

I would be interested to know about any other changes you're making or planning to make.

We're planning to :

change the gas hob for induction
re-arrange the kitchen so that we can put the oven higher up
fit a Neff oven with a "hide and slide" door and rotary controls
Replace all the cupboards on the base units with drawers
Replace the taps with a single unit with a quarter turn lever and clear labelling for hot / cold
install underfloor heating

The above is obviously helped by the fact that the kitchen needs an overhaul anyway.

Every stroke is different. In the case of my father it has left him simply unable to operate gadgets for the time being and as someone who has always loved tech and used it heavily in his day to life that is our biggest issue.

So we're having to remove robo vacs, wifi TRVs, automated blinds etc etc. What has been a real eye opener has been the realisation that things like smart phones and TVs aren't remotely smart in that everything has multiple steps just to get to the core functionality such as making or receiving a call or selecting a channel.

In the kitchen we're just focussing on relearning how to use the air fryer to start with and have simplified everything by temporarily relocating all the stuff he doesn't need and could be confusing.

We've also had to hire private support as none of the NHS support workers in Gloucestershire appear to have heard of the 21st century. That's been another eye opener, realising that large numbers of society simply haven't connected with any of what we would think of as completely normal day to day life. Even in the private sector we struggled to find people who had heard of things like online shopping. But a couple of weeks ago we found someone who helps severely disabled children learn how to use devices etc and she's been amazing.

It's been a steep learning curve dealing with the switch from someone who was 90 bit 100% with it, self sufficient and driving around doing everything to this situation but it's our first contact with the medical profession in Gloucestershire who refuse to believe that someone who is 90 could have been a fully functional adult and it's been an eye opener!

But maybe the worst trauma is that my father is insisting that I have his car which is a new 7 series diesel and I don't like big cars or diesels!

[omniflow]

DonkeyApple said:

Every stroke is different. In the case of my father it has left him simply unable to operate gadgets for the time being and as someone who has always loved tech and used it heavily in his day to life that is our biggest issue.

So we're having to remove robo vacs, wifi TRVs, automated blinds etc etc. What has been a real eye opener has been the realisation that things like smart phones and TVs aren't remotely smart in that everything has multiple steps just to get to the core functionality such as making or receiving a call or selecting a channel.

In the kitchen we're just focussing on relearning how to use the air fryer to start with and have simplified everything by temporarily relocating all the stuff he doesn't need and could be confusing.

We've also had to hire private support as none of the NHS support workers in Gloucestershire appear to have heard of the 21st century. That's been another eye opener, realising that large numbers of society simply haven't connected with any of what we would think of as completely normal day to day life. Even in the private sector we struggled to find people who had heard of things like online shopping. But a couple of weeks ago we found someone who helps severely disabled children learn how to use devices etc and she's been amazing.

It's been a steep learning curve dealing with the switch from someone who was 90 bit 100% with it, self sufficient and driving around doing everything to this situation but it's our first contact with the medical profession in Gloucestershire who refuse to believe that someone who is 90 could have been a fully functional adult and it's been an eye opener!

But maybe the worst trauma is that my father is insisting that I have his car which is a new 7 series diesel and I don't like big cars or diesels!

Whereabouts in Gloucestershire is your Dad?

My Mum's in Cheltenham, and having survived the ordeal that is Gloucester Royal Hospital she is now in a private care home in Cheltenham whilst I run around trying to make her house suitable for her to move back in to. I haven't got my head around what day-to-day will look like for my Mum. I'm 99% sure that carers will be part of the picture. Online shopping for groceries is something that hadn't occurred to me as part of the solution (I've never done it and neither has my Mum). I'll start sowing the seeds on that one when I see her tomorrow.

I made the mistake of updating the OS on her iPad a few days ago and then she complained that Netflix didn't work. It turns out that it was working ok, but the picture wasn't full screen. I then had to search the internet to figure out what happened and then search for how to disable all of the new features of the OS "upgrade". Very frustrating, and not something that I could have done remotely.

[Sixpackpert]

DonkeyApple said:

We've also had to hire private support as none of the NHS support workers in Gloucestershire appear to have heard of the 21st century.

That's not an NHS thing...that's a Gloucestershire thing

I can say it, I live here

Hope you Dad recovers.

[DonkeyApple]

Sixpackpert said:

DonkeyApple said:

We've also had to hire private support as none of the NHS support workers in Gloucestershire appear to have heard of the 21st century.

That's not an NHS thing...that's a Gloucestershire thing

I can say it, I live here

Hope you Dad recovers.

Thanks.

I've been out here full time for about 8 years and love it but bugger me it's a different planet.

[DonkeyApple]

omniflow said:

Whereabouts in Gloucestershire is your Dad?

My Mum's in Cheltenham, and having survived the ordeal that is Gloucester Royal Hospital she is now in a private care home in Cheltenham whilst I run around trying to make her house suitable for her to move back in to. I haven't got my head around what day-to-day will look like for my Mum. I'm 99% sure that carers will be part of the picture. Online shopping for groceries is something that hadn't occurred to me as part of the solution (I've never done it and neither has my Mum). I'll start sowing the seeds on that one when I see her tomorrow.

I made the mistake of updating the OS on her iPad a few days ago and then she complained that Netflix didn't work. It turns out that it was working ok, but the picture wasn't full screen. I then had to search the internet to figure out what happened and then search for how to disable all of the new features of the OS "upgrade". Very frustrating, and not something that I could have done remotely.

He's in Painswick and just spent 8 weeks in Cheltenham. He shouldn't have been sent home but to a rehab facility but the staff at Cheltenham refused to accept that a 90 year old could have been driving around and fully compus mentus so were adamant he'd made a miraculous recovery back to being a semi literate, non functioned so didn't need any rehab. Blithering idiots who stopped learning 20 years ago.

Hope you get you mother home soon. My sister is doing online shops for him at the moment and I'm driving over to oversee the delivery. Software updates are a terrible blight as are all the adverts and promotions that insert themselves in the process of getting through the TV, phones or tablet. And as you say, you can't help remotely.