RE: Singer partners with Red Bull on 964 Cabrio
RE: Singer partners with Red Bull on 964 Cabrio
Tuesday 3rd February

Singer partners with Red Bull on 964 Cabrio

Red Bull gives you wings - and a 175 per cent increase in torsional rigidity


It’s a problem faced by car companies the world over. Doesn’t matter how much is charged, how rare the car is or how much power is under the bonnet, once the roof is off a hard-top car the underlying structure, to one degree or another, will suffer. It won’t ride as nicely, handle as crisply, or accelerate quite as vividly (the latter thanks to the weight added by a folding roof). For most it’s an acceptable compromise for wind-in-the-air joy, but then Singer Vehicle Design (and its customers) are not most car people. It wouldn’t be unreasonable, when spending a million on a car, to brook no compromise whatsoever - even if it looks like a 30-year-old Porsche. 

So, of course, Singer has a money-no-object solution to the age-old issue of wobbly drop-tops: it’s called in Red Bull. What with a lot of commissions using the turbocharged flat six, boasting a significant step up in performance, the need for a flex-free Cabriolet or Targa is more pressing than ever. So Singer ‘asked Red Bull Advanced Technologies to deploy their world-class capabilities in simulation and structural analysis’. That meant using Finite Element Analysis to work out just how rigid both coupe and convertible were, then to identify where the latter was losing out to the former and attempt to address those weak spots. Soft top chassis technology has come a long way since the '90s; where the best cabrios are almost - almost - indistinguishable from their hard-top counterparts these days, that certainly wasn’t the case in the late 20th century. 

Red Bull’s fix is a formation of 13 carbon fibre structures to reinforce the 964 chassis, bonded to the monocoque during Singer’s extensive restoration and said to boast torsional rigidity by 175 per cent. Singer is emphatic about the results: ‘This increased chassis rigidity benefits handling, braking and overall refinement, with the driving experience of the open-roofed cars now matching that of the coupe.’ The best of both worlds, then, in theory: traditional top-down thrills, with all the dynamic discipline that Singer’s reimagined Porsches have become globally renowned for. And, presumably, little in terms of weight penalty. 

Singer’s Chief Strategy Officer Maz Fawaz said of the link-up: “Our clients are some of the most discerning drivers in the world. To achieve the standards they have come to expect, we work only with the best, and our search for expertise in this area led us to Red Bull Advanced Technologies. Since 2009 our approach has brought heritage together with cutting edge engineering, and Red Bull’s mastery of advanced materials, simulation and structural analysis perfectly exemplifies this approach. The results underline the extraordinary lengths we go to in our relentless pursuit of excellence”. As if a Singer of some kind wasn’t beguiling enough already. Best get hold of a 964 cabriolet now, in fact, before they’re all wanted for carbon-enhanced restomodding and prices climb further… 


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JJJ.

Original Poster:

4,540 posts

38 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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Disregarding my ambivalence towards 911 restromods, I really like this type of modification and engineering. Personally, can't fault it. I'll have the Targa sans the in your face wing.

Edited by JJJ. on Tuesday 3rd February 10:26

Bonefish Blues

34,626 posts

246 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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Anyone remember Kiki from Hector's House? Then look at the bottom image.

Just me then? hehe

Geoffcapes

1,120 posts

187 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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Ooooffffff!!!

I'd have that in a heartbeat!

If only I had the money......

WTDMM

145 posts

7 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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The want is massively strong with this. Stunning, especially if the torsional rigidity is equal to the coupe etc. Wow Wow Wow

el romeral

1,925 posts

160 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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I wanted to dislike this immensely, due to Red Bull s involvement. Doohh I can’t though, it looks rather splendid.

Edited by el romeral on Tuesday 3rd February 11:07

BUG4LIFE

2,444 posts

241 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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I know every man and his dog is doing 911 restomods, but my god I want one of those!!!

Dohnut

658 posts

69 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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Ooof possibly my favourite Singer’s to date.

Kipsrs

649 posts

72 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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That targa! Lordy I have a lot of want for that, with the classic whale tail too! Beautiful!

JJJ.

Original Poster:

4,540 posts

38 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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Kipsrs said:
That targa! Lordy I have a lot of want for that, with the classic whale tail too! Beautiful!
You're 90% give or take correct. biggrin

Puddenchucker

5,426 posts

241 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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Whilst the whole resto-mod 911 thing is now getting a bit repetitive, seen-it-done-it-all-before, they are some very nice looking cars.

MC Bodge

27,659 posts

198 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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I like blue one.

I was very pleased to see that it wasn't a Red Bull liveried car, with a giant can on the rear deck!

fantheman80

2,408 posts

72 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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MC Bodge said:
I like blue one.

I was very pleased to see that it wasn't a Red Bull liveried car, with a giant can on the rear deck!
smile I remember those

That is stunning. I'd have that over the yellow Ferrari ice scraper every time.

LotusOmega375D

9,070 posts

176 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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Judging by the impact bumpers, these look more 930 style to me than 964. So back-dated one model. Also the wheels need to be much bigger! wink

nismo48

6,321 posts

230 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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LotusOmega375D said:
Judging by the impact bumpers, these look more 930 style to me than 964. So back-dated one model. Also the wheels need to be much bigger! wink
Agreed on the wheels, just a tad too small wink

Robertb

3,426 posts

261 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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I didnt know Red Bull did the engineering for their F1 efforts, I just thought they were the main sponsor.

I'd love to see Singer do an actual 964, that looks like a 964 but with their attention to detail and enhancement. The wide-body 964 Turbo 3.6 and Anniversary are outstanding-looking cars, one of my favourite Porsches.

MC Bodge

27,659 posts

198 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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fantheman80 said:
I'd have that over the yellow Ferrari ice scraper every time.
Absolutely

siwhit

81 posts

204 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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That blue cabrio is stunning

AB

19,600 posts

218 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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The blue one is perfection

NGK210

4,582 posts

168 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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That’s very f*cking lovely.
Targa, no wing, please.
Perfect daily.
And a Nichols N1A for giggle duties:
https://www.evo.co.uk/reviews/208483/nichols-n1a-r...
Meanwhile, Ferrari please note: less is more.

WPA

13,701 posts

137 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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The Targa is stunning but would be better without the rear wing