China bans hidden door handles
Discussion
There's a youtube video out there somewhere on this subject. As I recall the hidden door handle isn't the only problem, on some of these cars (the Xiaomi SU7, the Porsche Taycan rip off?) there is no mechanical linkage whatsoever to open the door, opening it is entirely reliant on a microswitch and a solenoid.... what could possibly go wrong!
Edited by Andrew1234 on Tuesday 3rd February 12:08
Andrew1234 said:
There's a youtube video out there somewhere on this subject. As I recall the hidden door handle isn't the only problem, on some of these cars (the Xiaomi SU7, the Porsche Taycan rip off?) there is no mechanical linkage whatsoever to open the door, opening it is entirely reliant on a microswitch and a solenoid.... what could possibly go wrong!
Next time you go on holiday don't ask the pilot too many questions about how things work Edited by Andrew1234 on Tuesday 3rd February 12:08
https://youtu.be/JOtOC381kbA?si=XT5vTrS6P2eCclUN
Amazing isn't it that companies try to reinvent the wheel after decades of proven reliability and cock it up so badly. How did these handles pass certification in the first place if they are rendered inoperative if the 12v system goes flat?
Does that mean Chinese Teslas will have to come with normal mechanical handles too?
Does that mean Chinese Teslas will have to come with normal mechanical handles too?
Petrus1983 said:
Next time you go on holiday don't ask the pilot too many questions about how things work
https://youtu.be/JOtOC381kbA?si=XT5vTrS6P2eCclUN
Fly by Wire is always at least triplicated, fairly sure Tesla door handles aren'thttps://youtu.be/JOtOC381kbA?si=XT5vTrS6P2eCclUN
Andrew1234 said:
There's a youtube video out there somewhere on this subject. As I recall the hidden door handle isn't the only problem, on some of these cars (the Xiaomi SU7, the Porsche Taycan rip off?) there is no mechanical linkage whatsoever to open the door, opening it is entirely reliant on a microswitch and a solenoid.... what could possibly go wrong!
The current fiat 500 has a microswitch and solenoid system, well at least for opening the door from the inside, I noticed when I tested drove one last year, I was quite surprised and did wonder what would happen if it failed, to open from the inside you had to press a button, it was very cheap feeling and sounding.Edited by Andrew1234 on Tuesday 3rd February 12:08
Both the Mégane and Scenic EV's have flush door handles that pop out electrically, however they can also be pulled out manually and feel like there is a mechanical action to opening the car.
LivLL said:
Amazing isn't it that companies try to reinvent the wheel after decades of proven reliability and cock it up so badly.
See also Audi indicators. What’s wrong with a blink blink - I’d honestly only consider a modern Audi if the strobing effect could be coded out and revert back to proper indicators. Grrrrr’ 
Pincher said:
LivLL said:
Amazing isn't it that companies try to reinvent the wheel after decades of proven reliability and cock it up so badly.
See also Audi indicators. What s wrong with a blink blink - I d honestly only consider a modern Audi if the strobing effect could be coded out and revert back to proper indicators. Grrrrr Liamjrhodes said:
I really don't think the aesthetics of door handles is something governments should be getting involved in, I do however agree there should always be a mechanical failsafe which should be a regulation.
perhaps that's what UK PM was doing out there and it was the top of his list of important world issues.Countdown said:
I've always thought they were pointless.
I believe they are installed for "improved aerodynamics" - does that really justify the extra complexity and risk of borkage?
It's entirely possibly to have flush mechanical/conventional door handles, good for aero but without the complexity of all the electronic rubbish that fails. I believe they are installed for "improved aerodynamics" - does that really justify the extra complexity and risk of borkage?
Volvo were doing it 25 years ago, I'm sure there are others.
Very lazy headline. As far as I can see they're not banning flush/hidden door handles, they're banning electrically operated door latches. You can easily have mechanically connected flush handles, and for that matter you could have electronic non-flush ones. Edited by kambites on Tuesday 3rd February 21:00
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