Returning a PCP'd car with only one key or non original key
Returning a PCP'd car with only one key or non original key
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Monkeez

Original Poster:

94 posts

56 months

Hi all,
The Mrs has lost one of the keys for her car.
It's on a PCP deal and she is going probably going to be handing it back at the end of the term (providing there is no equity in it).
Anyone had any experience of handing a car back with only one key or two keys, one OEM and one a non OEM programmed key?
It's with Toyota.

Just thinking that they might not accept the non OEM key and still charge her for a proper Toyota one.

Obviously if there is equity in the car we'll look into buying it and this then isnt a major problem.

Cheers

FlyingPanda

584 posts

112 months

I got hit pretty hard for this returning a BMW. IIRC it was about £450, but I don't think they would have accepted anything other than a genuine one.

CMTMB

631 posts

17 months

This is why I hid the spare key for my wife's new car when it arrived a couple of weeks ago. As far as she's concerned it has one key and she needs to look after it. laugh

Monkeez

Original Poster:

94 posts

56 months

She drove off with the keys on the boot lid and they fell off somewhere.
Total design flaw with her car that lets you drive the car when the key isnt present.

Hol

9,216 posts

222 months

That s not a design flaw, it s a deliberate safety feature to allow people to keep driving along in a car that has been started using the keys security to keep driving safely if (for example)
..someone smashes the window and steals your wife s handbag on a darkened street, or
.. a young child throws the key out of an open window on a busy motorway.

Can you imagine the car cutting power and stranding everyone in either scenario?


This is therefore a textbook example of trying to make something foolproof, but failing to make it idiot proof at the same time.




Edited by Hol on Wednesday 4th February 12:54

Monkeez

Original Poster:

94 posts

56 months

Yeah fair enough but every car i've had sounds an alarm within the car if the keys are outside the car when it is running

Edited by Monkeez on Wednesday 4th February 13:18

Jamescrs

5,778 posts

87 months

FlyingPanda said:
I got hit pretty hard for this returning a BMW. IIRC it was about £450, but I don't think they would have accepted anything other than a genuine one.
Sounds about right, I had to buy a key from Mini and it was £150 and another £150 to code it more or less so if they then add on their own admin fee for dealing with it I can see where the costs come from

Hol

9,216 posts

222 months

Monkeez said:
Yeah fair enough but every car i've had sounds an alarm within the car if the keys are outside the car when it is running

Edited by Monkeez on Wednesday 4th February 13:18
That is also my experience of what should happen.

If it’s raining when we get home and my wife has forgotten to bring a separate house key, I’ll typically give her my car keys to get inside whilst I park the car further down the driveway.

I’ll always get that audible warning.
Porsche, VAG, Mercedes in recent experience.



Wills2

27,878 posts

197 months

Monkeez said:
She drove off with the keys on the boot lid and they fell off somewhere.
Total design flaw with her car that lets you drive the car when the key isnt present.
Hilarious, it's always someone else's fault...


Metric Max

1,801 posts

244 months

[quote=Hol]That s not a design flaw, it s a deliberate safety feature to allow people to keep driving along in a car that has been started using the keys security to keep driving safely if (for example)
..someone smashes the window and steals your wife s handbag on a darkened street, or
.. a young child throws the key out of an open window on a busy motorway.

Can you imagine the car cutting power and stranding everyone in either scenario?


This is therefore a textbook example of trying to make something foolproof, but failing to make it idiot proof at the same time.



My car has a special socket on the dashboard to store the key in. The car will not start without it being there and the engine stops if it's removed


Blue_star

580 posts

38 months

CMTMB said:
This is why I hid the spare key for my wife's new car when it arrived a couple of weeks ago. As far as she's concerned it has one key and she needs to look after it. laugh
I need you to mentor me.

Gary C

14,586 posts

201 months

Wills2 said:
Monkeez said:
She drove off with the keys on the boot lid and they fell off somewhere.
Total design flaw with her car that lets you drive the car when the key isnt present.
Hilarious, it's always someone else's fault...
I think he was more alluding to being able to start the car with they keys not in the car. My wifes car needs the key in the car quite near to the dash before it starts, but as said, allows you to keep driving if you then take the key away.

Quite annoying if you drive to work after nipping back into the house then drive off with the keys on the table...

Monkeez

Original Poster:

94 posts

56 months

Wills2 said:
Hilarious, it's always someone else's fault...
Not saying that at all because it is totally her fault