Going to the dump, and van sizes
Going to the dump, and van sizes
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GoodDoc

Original Poster:

613 posts

198 months

I went car free when the London ULEZ expanded in 2023. Being without a car worked out much better than I thought it would (although now Zip car has ceased operations, so we'll see), but the one big drawback I've found so far is trips to the local dump.

I'm about to do a big clearout which will include some old IKEA wardrobes and I can't sneak those into the weekly rubbish collection. I figured I'd just hire a van, but having checked the council's requirement they only allow "small vans';



Having checked Ford's website it turns out even their smallest van, the Transit Courier (which I think is also a VW Caddy) exceeds those loadspace dimensions (only just).




I assume the council will be flexible if I turn up in a Transit Courier or similar but I don't want to find out they're inflexible with a load of cut up wardrobes in the back. Does anyone know of a small van that meets those restrictions, or am I going to have to spend more to hire a Golf/Focus sized hatchback.
Alternatively, are there companies who will collect this kind of household waste for less than the price of hire car (£50 for a van, £80 for a car. God I miss Zipcar).

Little Lofty

3,779 posts

173 months

I’m allowed to take my Vito to my local tip, I have to get a permit and I’m only allowed 10 trips per year, it has to be household waste. They all have different rules, but yours looks quite strict, sit outside for an hour and watch what goes in smile

OutInTheShed

12,815 posts

48 months

Rules vary from county to county.

Helped a mate in Cornwall last year, any van was OK if if was a retail hire for less than 7 days.
The small print of their rules ban trailers over 5ft internal length, in Devon, we're allowed 3m!

It's bonkers, clearing out some stuff from an inlaw's shed in Bristol, it was easier to hire a van and bring the rubbish down west!

Do the council do a bulky refuse scheme? I think in Bristol you can get a 'skip bag' or something for a reasonable fee, they collect after a week or something?

A lot of stuff goes on FB marketplace for free or a quid, your old furniture might become shelves in someone's garage and everyone is happy?

Shaw Tarse

31,833 posts

225 months

Check if your local council do bulk waste collections.
If you "do" Facebook ask on there in local groups
Just be aware that some may offer to get rid of your rubbish & dump it round the corner.
I'd also factor in to cost of hiring a vehicle, time & effort of collecting, returning & fuel?

GoodDoc

Original Poster:

613 posts

198 months

OutInTheShed said:
It's bonkers, clearing out some stuff from an inlaw's shed in Bristol, it was easier to hire a van and bring the rubbish down west!
Tell me about it! My nearest council dump was just inside the original ULEZ which meant it cost me £12.50 to drive the last 50 metres. Being close to the M3 meant it was faster to drive to the Woking council dump 30 miles away. That was fine for the odd bag a few years ago, but trying this seems the wrong side of cheeky.

OutInTheShed said:
Do the council do a bulky refuse scheme? I think in Bristol you can get a 'skip bag' or something for a reasonable fee, they collect after a week or something?
Shaw Tarse said:
Check if your local council do bulk waste collections.
Hadn't thought about that. Turns out they do a "bulky item" collection service. It's about £90 for up to 6 items. I want to get rid of two wardrobes, but they have to be broken down so I can get them out of the flat, hopefully that will count as two items and not 20.

OutInTheShed said:
A lot of stuff goes on FB marketplace for free or a quid, your old furniture might become shelves in someone's garage and everyone is happy?
Shaw Tarse said:
If you "do" Facebook ask on there in local groups
Don't do facebook, but I might stick them on a site like freecycle a couple of weeks before I need them gone and see what happens. I did look at some collection services but they don't seem to be much cheaper than the council's bulk item service.

At the moment the small van at £50 for the day and using the council dump still seems like the best option, I'll have to ask the council how lenient their small vans policy is. I suspect the newest small vans have been updated to create as much load space as possible and the council's guidelines havn't been updated. Would be madness if a Transit Courier can't use the dump because the loadspace is 10cm to long, and 6cm to high.

Simpo Two

90,901 posts

287 months

It seems an odd way to define van size. You'd think length and height would be more important.

Are there any charities near you that do furniture and might collect?

Ardennes92

687 posts

102 months

British Heart Foundation will collect furniture free of charge around us so long as they are saleable, book online and choose a date and they ring you to confirm a date

_Neal_

2,854 posts

241 months

GoodDoc said:
Don't do facebook, but I might stick them on a site like freecycle a couple of weeks before I need them gone and see what happens. I did look at some collection services but they don't seem to be much cheaper than the council's bulk item service.

At the moment the small van at £50 for the day and using the council dump still seems like the best option, I'll have to ask the council how lenient their small vans policy is. I suspect the newest small vans have been updated to create as much load space as possible and the council's guidelines havn't been updated. Would be madness if a Transit Courier can't use the dump because the loadspace is 10cm to long, and 6cm to high.
Freecycle and local Facebook groups worked really well for us (also in London) for getting rid of wardrobes, beds, cotbed etc - good feeling passing them on to someone who will get further use from them rather than sending them for recycling/landfill.

119

16,582 posts

58 months

Don’t those hippo bag things still exist?

Buy a bag and they collect foc

A500leroy

7,628 posts

140 months

Hire a mpv and take the seats out.

Chumley.mouse

866 posts

59 months

I’m lucky i work next door to a council tip ( also drive past another on the way to work ) you can take what you want to them and they don’t bat an eyelid. For £50 i’m sure you can get someone to take it for you. If you lived near me I’d snap your hand off .

Chumley.mouse

866 posts

59 months

A500leroy said:
Hire a mpv and take the seats out.
Vw touran’s are a great alternative to a small van , able to carry an interior door with the boot down and what wont fit inside goes on the roof.