What is your personal vision of the future?
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How do you personally see the future panning out? I'm thinking the next half century or so but take the question however you like.
Do you think AI will take over and there'll be mass unemployment? Do you see a utopia where we all live well on UBI?
What about wars, disease/pandemics etc.
Aliens? Disasters? Triumphs? Achievements?
What is your personal vision/predictions for the future?
How do you personally see the future panning out? I'm thinking the next half century or so but take the question however you like.
Do you think AI will take over and there'll be mass unemployment? Do you see a utopia where we all live well on UBI?
What about wars, disease/pandemics etc.
Aliens? Disasters? Triumphs? Achievements?
What is your personal vision/predictions for the future?
Capitalism will be so advanced your whole life will be monitised, drones will be everywhere, owning your own vehicle will be outlawed and you can only move around by licenced drone.
Nothing will work without facial recognition,
Only jobs available will be manual work or certain specialist jobs protected by law.
Nothing will work without facial recognition,
Only jobs available will be manual work or certain specialist jobs protected by law.
Sheets Tabuer said:
Capitalism will be so advanced your whole life will be monitised, drones will be everywhere, owning your own vehicle will be outlawed and you can only move around by licenced drone.
Nothing will work without facial recognition,
Only jobs available will be manual work or certain specialist jobs protected by law.
That would essentially be communism. If there’s no jobs there’s no capitalism, so everything would have to be state run. But how would you fund it? Nothing will work without facial recognition,
Only jobs available will be manual work or certain specialist jobs protected by law.
I was too young for the Space race, so my era was 747, Concorde,Space Shuttle & the 125's.
On that basis, I doubt if I will see;
The demise of fossil fuels.
Commercial space travel. (A day return to Australia)
Hovering or flying cars etc.
Colonisation of the Moon (or Mars).
(WW3.. I pray).
On that basis, I doubt if I will see;
The demise of fossil fuels.
Commercial space travel. (A day return to Australia)
Hovering or flying cars etc.
Colonisation of the Moon (or Mars).
(WW3.. I pray).
Edited by Milkyway on Saturday 14th February 19:36
If I'm feeling optimistic, in the next couple of decades we get 'proper' super intelligence AI, and it figures out solutions for the big problems facing humanity - 'free' limitless energy and whatever those machines are called that can take atoms and turn them into anything so we have replicators. Bonus points for crazy good energy and data storage too.
Remove resource constraints (and at least colonise the solar system) and you've got a decent stab at humanity figuring it's s
t out and just chilling. Have a 'race' of super AIs that are strangely but reassuringly sentimental about us running things better than we ever could, and we're not far from getting on the way to being the Culture...
Remove resource constraints (and at least colonise the solar system) and you've got a decent stab at humanity figuring it's s
t out and just chilling. Have a 'race' of super AIs that are strangely but reassuringly sentimental about us running things better than we ever could, and we're not far from getting on the way to being the Culture... Just going to be a bit sttier than it is now.
The rich will get richer, the poor will get poorer and stuff like politics will only ever get more fractionalised. The US will decline, China will dominate and there’s bound to be a biggish war somewhere, either Iran or Taiwan that will end up fking things over for everyone.
But hey! Got to be optimistic!
ttier than it is now.The rich will get richer, the poor will get poorer and stuff like politics will only ever get more fractionalised. The US will decline, China will dominate and there’s bound to be a biggish war somewhere, either Iran or Taiwan that will end up f
king things over for everyone.But hey! Got to be optimistic!
Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
Sheets Tabuer said:
Capitalism will be so advanced your whole life will be monitised, drones will be everywhere, owning your own vehicle will be outlawed and you can only move around by licenced drone.
Nothing will work without facial recognition,
Only jobs available will be manual work or certain specialist jobs protected by law.
That would essentially be communism. If there s no jobs there s no capitalism, so everything would have to be state run. But how would you fund it? Nothing will work without facial recognition,
Only jobs available will be manual work or certain specialist jobs protected by law.
Or they'll sit around playing on their playstations while smoking themselves into psychosis.
I dunno.
Sadly, I see war in Europe in the next 20 years.
Throughout history, war has been normal. For the last 60 or so years, war has been a long way from people s minds. Before that time, war between neighbouring countries was almost normal. However, in our part of the world the EU has effectively removed the idea of war in Europe (it was conceived, in a large part by Winston Churchill, as a route to peace & harmony in Europe). Combine that with Thermonuclear weapons and you have a scenario in which war between neighbouring countries becomes unthinkable. Of course, Brexit removed one of two nuclear powers from Europe (that s why Russia pumped money into the leave campaign). War starts to become a possibility again.
But now, following Russian actions in Ukraine and the change of posture by the USA, war becomes not only thinkable, but likely between Europe & Russia.
So, I see a repeat of history, in which Russia invades another country, China invades Taiwan, and the world is plunged into conflict again. Maybe Trump (or Vance) will use the opportunity to attack Iran / Greenland / another South American nation.
I m 55, with young kids; I expect to see conscription return in my lifetime. Possibly for my kids.
Mrs Magnum & I . Well, she s dual-national (Romanian British), so I think we ll use that to retire to one of the minor Canary Islands & hope to avoid it all.
As for AI, it will change the world of work, especially for knowledge workers. Combine it with Quantum Compute, and we could see major scientific advances. What they ll be, who knows? Right now one of the biggest use-cases for Quantum is battlespace planning . but the scientific uses are amazing, if we can just focus on them.
Throughout history, war has been normal. For the last 60 or so years, war has been a long way from people s minds. Before that time, war between neighbouring countries was almost normal. However, in our part of the world the EU has effectively removed the idea of war in Europe (it was conceived, in a large part by Winston Churchill, as a route to peace & harmony in Europe). Combine that with Thermonuclear weapons and you have a scenario in which war between neighbouring countries becomes unthinkable. Of course, Brexit removed one of two nuclear powers from Europe (that s why Russia pumped money into the leave campaign). War starts to become a possibility again.
But now, following Russian actions in Ukraine and the change of posture by the USA, war becomes not only thinkable, but likely between Europe & Russia.
So, I see a repeat of history, in which Russia invades another country, China invades Taiwan, and the world is plunged into conflict again. Maybe Trump (or Vance) will use the opportunity to attack Iran / Greenland / another South American nation.
I m 55, with young kids; I expect to see conscription return in my lifetime. Possibly for my kids.
Mrs Magnum & I . Well, she s dual-national (Romanian British), so I think we ll use that to retire to one of the minor Canary Islands & hope to avoid it all.
As for AI, it will change the world of work, especially for knowledge workers. Combine it with Quantum Compute, and we could see major scientific advances. What they ll be, who knows? Right now one of the biggest use-cases for Quantum is battlespace planning . but the scientific uses are amazing, if we can just focus on them.
Edited by Magnum 475 on Saturday 14th February 21:05
Edited by Magnum 475 on Saturday 14th February 21:06
More Govt control, fewer freedoms, bigger wealth divide, social housing in UK becoming like apartment blocks from 80's Soviet Russia.
Species becoming extinct due to pollution or over fishing. Food shortages
China establishing Military presence and strength in Africa, with advancements in military tech making a 2 pronged attack by China and Russia to Europe a possibility.
Bladerunner type ghetto's in some cities. Facial recognition and digital financing mandatory, cashless society.
JLR products will become reliable and cheap to fix.
Species becoming extinct due to pollution or over fishing. Food shortages
China establishing Military presence and strength in Africa, with advancements in military tech making a 2 pronged attack by China and Russia to Europe a possibility.
Bladerunner type ghetto's in some cities. Facial recognition and digital financing mandatory, cashless society.
JLR products will become reliable and cheap to fix.
There will be pockets of volatility, but I think the next 25 years will be relatively boring for the uk
technological progress will be fairly linear but steady, as it's been for past few decades. And in sense that uk is relatively stagnant, things will largely stay the same for most people in the middle, more potholes, slightly faster phones. More food banks and more millionaires.
Geopolitically, I think direct conflict will settle down, and proxy indirect influence (aka international law) will come back into fashion, so things will (appear) calmer. Nobody wants a repeat of Ukraine
technological progress will be fairly linear but steady, as it's been for past few decades. And in sense that uk is relatively stagnant, things will largely stay the same for most people in the middle, more potholes, slightly faster phones. More food banks and more millionaires.
Geopolitically, I think direct conflict will settle down, and proxy indirect influence (aka international law) will come back into fashion, so things will (appear) calmer. Nobody wants a repeat of Ukraine
Edited by lizardbrain on Saturday 14th February 23:23
Magnum 475 said:
Sadly, I see war in Europe in the next 20 years.
Throughout history, war has been normal. For the last 60 or so years, war has been a long way from people s minds. Before that time, war between neighbouring countries was almost normal. However, in our part of the world the EU has effectively removed the idea of war in Europe (it was conceived, in a large part by Winston Churchill, as a route to peace & harmony in Europe). Combine that with Thermonuclear weapons and you have a scenario in which war between neighbouring countries becomes unthinkable. Of course, Brexit removed one of two nuclear powers from Europe (that s why Russia pumped money into the leave campaign). War starts to become a possibility again.
But now, following Russian actions in Ukraine and the change of posture by the USA, war becomes not only thinkable, but likely between Europe & Russia.
I think Putin absolutely wants to have a wider war but I am not sure he can.Throughout history, war has been normal. For the last 60 or so years, war has been a long way from people s minds. Before that time, war between neighbouring countries was almost normal. However, in our part of the world the EU has effectively removed the idea of war in Europe (it was conceived, in a large part by Winston Churchill, as a route to peace & harmony in Europe). Combine that with Thermonuclear weapons and you have a scenario in which war between neighbouring countries becomes unthinkable. Of course, Brexit removed one of two nuclear powers from Europe (that s why Russia pumped money into the leave campaign). War starts to become a possibility again.
But now, following Russian actions in Ukraine and the change of posture by the USA, war becomes not only thinkable, but likely between Europe & Russia.
Edited by Magnum 475 on Saturday 14th February 21:05
Edited by Magnum 475 on Saturday 14th February 21:06
The only good thing Trump has done is bully European countries in to raising their defence spending. Certainly German and countries to the north and East of it are all increasing their spending. Not all countries needed bullying but Germany did and the French and British are staring at the floor hoping nobody wil notice they’ve done nothing.
The Ukraine war has hollowed out Russia’s military capability as far as land war’s go for quite some time. It’s also given NATO countries a huge amount of data on Russia’s capabilities.
I also don’t think the US really abandons Europe….it needs its European bases and there is expertise in Europe that the US just doesn’t have. The best troops by capability in Arctic conditions are from Finland and Scandinavia not the US…and there are 10X more troops from those countries that can fight in Artic conditions that the US has.
The one area of concern is that we have learnt that nuclear proliferation matters. Would Ukraine have been invaded if it stil had the Soviet Nuclear weapons? Would NATO countries have been so scared of confronting Russia’s “red lines” if he didn’t have nuclear weapons ? Would Iran have been attacked if it actually had nuclear weapons?
My guess is within 10 years Iran will have nuclear weapons, I am sure they probably already have the expertise. They’ve learnt that being close to having nuclear capability doesn’t offer protection.
That’s what really worries me….a lot of countries will want their own nuclear weapons.
Government control will be perfected to a nauseating extent. Financial safety valves and lifeboats will be closed off to anyone other than elites.
People will have to actively choose to prevent AI and media in all its forms from atrophying their mind.
At some point the social contract will be so totally broken that something radical will happen, or will need to happen.
My vague thoughts about the future during the 1990s proved pretty crap. The overall trajectory of the world, with the odd bright spot, is vastly more st than I expected it to be. I thought we'd actually have made some enlightened progress as a species by now.
People will have to actively choose to prevent AI and media in all its forms from atrophying their mind.
At some point the social contract will be so totally broken that something radical will happen, or will need to happen.
My vague thoughts about the future during the 1990s proved pretty crap. The overall trajectory of the world, with the odd bright spot, is vastly more s
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