RE: Can a facelift help solve the BMW M5 Touring?
RE: Can a facelift help solve the BMW M5 Touring?
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Can a facelift help solve the BMW M5 Touring?

Neue Klasse refresh incoming for 727hp plug-in V8 uberwagon


If you’re thinking that it hasn’t been very long since the M5 Touring’s introduction, you’d be right: it was less than a year ago since we first drove it in the UK. But BMW is already well into facelift mode, with the intention of bringing the plug-in V8 more into line, design-wise at least, with the Neue Klasse cars - kicked off by the iX3

Plus, well, there have already been updates for the G99 in the shape of increased onboard charging speed (from 7.4kW to 11kW last year) and the imminent detuning of the V8. It’s very much the way of modern cars, with upgrades here and there through the lifecycle of a car as tech (and regulations) develop at a ferocious rate, rather than the old way of a launch, a mid-life overhaul, and then the end of production. 

This does look like a fairly substantial revision however, given the amount of disguise. While the M5 status is in no doubt - those exhausts and rear arches make sure of that - the front end is clearly altered. The light design is different (and the grille doesn’t illuminate with them; we can but hope it stays that way) with the entire vibe just a little softer than the first time around. 

Probably the cladding and the conditions are helping that impression, but each intake seems a tad less aggressive, the grilles smaller, the general in-yer-faceness of the G9x toned down slightly. Look at it next to the XM for some proof. Maybe a transformatively different M5 is just wishful thinking so soon into its life, but it’s hard to say that anything in automotive is impossible right now. 

Along with the new version of the twin-turbo V8 and the design changes, we can expect this M5 to get the usual raft of BMW Life Cycle Impulse tweaks: some new colours, wheels and materials will join the configurator, the latest generation of iDrive will feature (maybe even the new panoramic display), and there’ll probably be some new apps to pay for as well. As is the way of new cars. 

Let’s be hopeful and predict a new M5 Competition as well, with some chassis adjustments. Either way, nothing about this car has been confirmed for the moment, and BMW isn’t short of new car projects right now, so an official announcement about another M5 may still be some way off. But it’s nice to know that the old supersaloon (and estate) remain a priority. We’ve been here before with M5s that didn’t quite hit the mark from the beginning - it’ll come good in the end. Won’t it?


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pb8g09

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2,989 posts

91 months

Yesterday (15:34)
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I’ve seen a fair number of M3 Tourings, but I haven’t seen a single M5 Touring, or even actually any new M5s around me. Are they selling many?

FlyingPanda

609 posts

112 months

Yesterday (15:41)
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Funny enough, where I am (leafy Cheshire) we see far more M5s than M3s, both touring and otherwise.

Frimley111R

18,263 posts

256 months

Yesterday (15:52)
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pb8g09 said:
I ve seen a fair number of M3 Tourings, but I haven t seen a single M5 Touring, or even actually any new M5s around me. Are they selling many?
Probably in tiny numbers, like most of these type of cars. It's a very niche vehicle.

SweptVolume

1,162 posts

115 months

Yesterday (15:58)
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pb8g09 said:
I ve seen a fair number of M3 Tourings, but I haven t seen a single M5 Touring, or even actually any new M5s around me. Are they selling many?
There's a green M3 Touring that lives near me and I think it's skewed my perception of how popular these are as it feels like I've seen plenty, but it could just be the same one each time.

Agree, I've not noticed a new M5, but I'm not sure I'd recognise one if I saw it anyway (unless it was in that shade of yellow.

Robertb

3,337 posts

260 months

Yesterday (16:10)
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Looks good. Compared to that hideous monstrosity following it.

As if making a vile-looking front wasn't enough, they had to go and illuminate the grille surround!


Slowlygettingit

859 posts

63 months

Yesterday (17:49)
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Needs more a facelift.
It’s the size and weight of the thing.

CG2020UK

2,850 posts

62 months

Yesterday (18:00)
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Hopefully a good evolution of the M5 bring some improvements

el romeral

1,896 posts

159 months

Yesterday (18:07)
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That looks pretty decent and appears to be the smallest grille fitted to a BMW for many years.

yme402

596 posts

124 months

Yesterday (18:41)
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FlyingPanda said:
Funny enough, where I am (leafy Cheshire) we see far more M5s than M3s, both touring and otherwise.
“Leafy Cheshire” also includes plenty of dumps like Hyde, Warrington, or Ellesmere Port, so many BMWs you see could be the X1 on Motability.

FlyingPanda

609 posts

112 months

Yesterday (18:51)
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yme402 said:
Leafy Cheshire also includes plenty of dumps like Hyde, Warrington, or Ellesmere Port, so many BMWs you see could be the X1 on Motability.
I’m not sure any of those have ever qualified for the “leafy” nomenclature wink


MyV10BarksAndBites

1,603 posts

71 months

Yesterday (19:00)
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yme402 said:
FlyingPanda said:
Funny enough, where I am (leafy Cheshire) we see far more M5s than M3s, both touring and otherwise.
Leafy Cheshire also includes plenty of dumps like Hyde, Warrington, or Ellesmere Port, so many BMWs you see could be the X1 on Motability.
Someone's feeling... emotional... biglaughbeer

Kawasicki

14,114 posts

257 months

Yesterday (19:19)
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Hope they sort out the suspension tune too.

Maccmike8

1,529 posts

76 months

Yesterday (19:27)
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I keep reading Neue Klasse but only recently, Im aware it means new class. Is this a BMW ev branding term, German manufacturers overall or Matt Bird specific?

nismo48

6,181 posts

229 months

Yesterday (19:28)
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yme402 said:
FlyingPanda said:
Funny enough, where I am (leafy Cheshire) we see far more M5s than M3s, both touring and otherwise.
Leafy Cheshire also includes plenty of dumps like Hyde, Warrington, or Ellesmere Port, so many BMWs you see could be the X1 on Motability.
hehe

Super Sonic

11,896 posts

76 months

Yesterday (19:36)
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Maccmike8 said:
I keep reading Neue Klasse but only recently, Im aware it means new class. Is this a BMW ev branding term, German manufacturers overall or Matt Bird specific?
It's a throwback to the old 1962-1972 Neue Klasse saloon which predated the five series.

Edited by Super Sonic on Monday 16th February 19:40

AddyT.

370 posts

115 months

Yesterday (20:11)
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Not seen one and I travel a lot for work. Don't think I have seen a saloon either actually.

Mouse Rat

2,022 posts

114 months

Yesterday (21:00)
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Need Liposuction, let alone a face lift.

Jte3397

228 posts

118 months

Yesterday (21:16)
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AddyT. said:
Not seen one and I travel a lot for work. Don't think I have seen a saloon either actually.
I've only seen the one Touring, on the M3 around Lightwater. In the past when I've had my first spot of a new M5, they usually look better in the flesh and I think I'd quite like one. Not this time... I suppose the positive is LCI can't make it any worse.

JaredVannett

1,621 posts

165 months

Yesterday (21:54)
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Slowlygettingit said:
Needs more a facelift.
It s the size and weight of the thing.
Judging by the current M2 facelift BMW literally mean "facelift" and no other updates... apart from software updates hehe

Of course, the "Comp" models are true LCI ... fixing/improving more than just cosmetics a.k.a how the car should have been released in the first place.

Mr Tidy

29,159 posts

149 months

Yesterday (22:00)
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Jte3397 said:
AddyT. said:
Not seen one and I travel a lot for work. Don't think I have seen a saloon either actually.
I've only seen the one Touring, on the M3 around Lightwater. In the past when I've had my first spot of a new M5, they usually look better in the flesh and I think I'd quite like one. Not this time... I suppose the positive is LCI can't make it any worse.
Probably on it's way to work in Farnborough!

I don't think I've seen one although I live near J3 on the M3.

Hard to tell how it looks with the camo. paint but those kidney grills look much better. But as others have said it is just too big, which may be why there seem to be more M3s around. confused