Travelodge staff gave sex attacker key to woman's room
Travelodge staff gave sex attacker key to woman's room
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butchstewie

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64,133 posts

233 months

Zetec-S

6,618 posts

116 months

I saw that earlier. From what I can gather anyone within earshot of you whilst checking in could potentially blag a key to your room.

It sounds like it was some sort of Christmas party event, so I imagine hotel staff were having to deal with a lot of drunken revellers and it's not uncommon for people to lock themselves out of their room, but it's rather concerning they don't have a more robust system to check if someone is genuine. Not to mention their appalling attitude afterwards towards the victim.

butchstewie

Original Poster:

64,133 posts

233 months

I think from how I'm reading it it's a little more than earshot in this case but I assume just knowing some basic info was all it took.

Like you I'm appalled at the £30 offer.

Can't get my head around what world that happens in where any company thinks that's an appropriate response.

KAgantua

5,097 posts

154 months

30 quid lol bet it was a voucher not cash

What a bunch of s

gotoPzero

19,909 posts

212 months

Jeez. Not good. A simple password or pin code at the time of booking would prevent this, only known to the person who booked the room and then shown to staff in the event they need to re-issue a room key.

Also knowing how to keep a hotel door secure from inside is a good idea - lots of info online.

valiant

13,264 posts

183 months

Wife used to work in a national chain hotel. (Not TL) and there were very strict rules around giving keys out and whatnot especially where lone females were staying and it wasn’t unheard of to have abusive husbands turn up looking for their wives who’d finally had enough.

Looks like processes have failed and TL have behaved appallingly in its handling of the victim.

Peterpetrole

1,470 posts

20 months

Can't help thinking there is more explanation to this, Travel Lodge's statement is pretty emphatic about the staff following procedures.


davek_964

10,662 posts

198 months

Peterpetrole said:
Can't help thinking there is more explanation to this, Travel Lodge's statement is pretty emphatic about the staff following procedures.
Or, it means the procedures are not good enough.

butchstewie

Original Poster:

64,133 posts

233 months

davek_964 said:
Or, it means the procedures are not good enough.
That's how I read it tbh.

I could understand the BBC not publishing them but the fact Travelodge wouldn't tell them what they were suggests they probably weren't adequate.

Without knowing what they were I guess it's difficult to form a view on whether it could reasonably be expected that someone would be able to do what this scumbag did.

jonsp

1,453 posts

179 months

butchstewie said:
davek_964 said:
Or, it means the procedures are not good enough.
That's how I read it tbh.

I could understand the BBC not publishing them but the fact Travelodge wouldn't tell them what they were suggests they probably weren't adequate.

Without knowing what they were I guess it's difficult to form a view on whether it could reasonably be expected that someone would be able to do what this scumbag did.
Should a hotel ever in any circumstances give a man a key to a lone woman's room in the middle of the night? I'd say no.

Sounds like the guy was also staying at the hotel and claimed to be her boyfriend. So he can go to bed and see her in the morning. Absolutely no reason to give him the key.

butchstewie

Original Poster:

64,133 posts

233 months

Clearly not.

I'm wondering if that's the gap in their procedures. Something as dumb as not verifying who is requesting the key and just going off name and room number or something.

But even typing that out it sounds way too simple..

Red9zero

10,359 posts

80 months

I was given a key card for a woman's room when I checked into a Travelodge a few years back. It was a bit of a shock when I walked in to find the room already occupied. Luckily there was only her stuff in there as she had popped out. I thought that was bad enough.

gotoPzero

19,909 posts

212 months

jonsp said:
butchstewie said:
davek_964 said:
Or, it means the procedures are not good enough.
That's how I read it tbh.

I could understand the BBC not publishing them but the fact Travelodge wouldn't tell them what they were suggests they probably weren't adequate.

Without knowing what they were I guess it's difficult to form a view on whether it could reasonably be expected that someone would be able to do what this scumbag did.
Should a hotel ever in any circumstances give a man a key to a lone woman's room in the middle of the night? I'd say no.

Sounds like the guy was also staying at the hotel and claimed to be her boyfriend. So he can go to bed and see her in the morning. Absolutely no reason to give him the key.
Not just a man asking for a key, any room any key should need IMVHO verbal confirmation.

The only thing is, suppose you can never have 100% systems in place as the article did say they knew each other but I would expect reception to call me if someone was asking for my room key.


jonsp

1,453 posts

179 months

gotoPzero said:
Not just a man asking for a key, any room any key should need IMVHO verbal confirmation.

The only thing is, suppose you can never have 100% systems in place as the article did say they knew each other but I would expect reception to call me if someone was asking for my room key.
Certainly.

Even if the guy was her boyfriend they might have had a row and she wanted to be away from him. If a woman's not safe behind a locked door where is she safe?

Being cynical I wonder if some wide awake lawyer will pick this up and sue TL on a % basis.

wiggy001

7,018 posts

294 months

If your name isn't on the room booking then you shouldn't get a key. That is the most basic of procedures I would assume any hotel would follow.

Rivenink

4,292 posts

129 months

wiggy001 said:
If your name isn't on the room booking then you shouldn't get a key. That is the most basic of procedures I would assume any hotel would follow.
The thing is, you're not required to give the names of everyone staying.

They do ask at booking how many people are staying... and the default value is usually set to two.

Travelodge say procedures were followed, I wonder if the procedure was to check how many people the room had been booked for and that said "2".

Super Sonic

12,138 posts

77 months

wiggy001 said:
If your name isn't on the room booking then you shouldn't get a key. That is the most basic of procedures I would assume any hotel would follow.
This. If anyone else wants to get in, they can knock and say "Open up, it's Dave" or whatever.

DeadShed

8,910 posts

162 months

Saturday
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wiggy001 said:
If your name isn't on the room booking then you shouldn't get a key. That is the most basic of procedures I would assume any hotel would follow.
Room bookings only have one name on them. When I book hotel rooms for family holidays they ask for the number of people but not their names.

L1OFF

3,650 posts

279 months

Saturday
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I used to stay in TL's regularly when working in London (not all ways the same one due to bookings'), the reception staff would always write the room number on the key card paper holder thingy not tell me out loud.

Jamescrs

5,881 posts

88 months

Saturday
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Red9zero said:
I was given a key card for a woman's room when I checked into a Travelodge a few years back. It was a bit of a shock when I walked in to find the room already occupied. Luckily there was only her stuff in there as she had popped out. I thought that was bad enough.
Happened to a colleague of mine at a Premier Inn, checked in and was given a room key, went to the room to find it occupied and heard someone in the shower. He quickly walked out again and went back to reception and they tried telling him he was wrong and went to the room to check it!