The F1 new rule changes Poll
Poll: The F1 new rule changes Poll
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It could do with some tweaking to how powerful the boost/overtake settings are. As it is there is the repeated overtake and overtake back when the cars are close, which got old quickly in Australia. If that power was backed off a bit so that the drivers had to put some planning and effort into overtaking, it would be better.
The cars look better though, and being smaller helps. In last years cars something like the Lawson/Colapinto miss on the Australia grid definitely would have been contact, and messy.
The cars look better though, and being smaller helps. In last years cars something like the Lawson/Colapinto miss on the Australia grid definitely would have been contact, and messy.
On the fence.
On one side it's been good entertainment, wheel to wheel racing throughout the pack. Managing the car has always been a part of F1, be it tyres, fuel, etc.
On the other side I'd agree it is maybe too much management, on the onboards it feels like they are lifting off so early on the straights. And I do think it's only a matter of time before we see a big accident because of some of the speed differentials.
On one side it's been good entertainment, wheel to wheel racing throughout the pack. Managing the car has always been a part of F1, be it tyres, fuel, etc.
On the other side I'd agree it is maybe too much management, on the onboards it feels like they are lifting off so early on the straights. And I do think it's only a matter of time before we see a big accident because of some of the speed differentials.
I've gone with 'on the fence', on the basis I don't think the direction of the new spec is wrong, it's just too much for the current limits of electrification (battery density) to not come with consequences.
I quite like that it brings the cars closer together and the number of passes, in terms of pushing them to drive wheel to wheel. I'm not a big fan of the random nature whereby two drivers can pass and repass each other ten times, with the final victor being decided when the other guys tyres finally give up first. That to me isn't racing as such, its more like musical chairs - when the music finally stops, you have your loser...
But quali laps are the biggest and most obvious compromise for the new specs, which I don't like.
I'm hoping they work towards a bit more power from the ICE and a larger useable battery capacity - sufficient to at least get in a one power lap. It'll take years to achieve those things but it'd be great to hear that's their target ASAP.
I quite like that it brings the cars closer together and the number of passes, in terms of pushing them to drive wheel to wheel. I'm not a big fan of the random nature whereby two drivers can pass and repass each other ten times, with the final victor being decided when the other guys tyres finally give up first. That to me isn't racing as such, its more like musical chairs - when the music finally stops, you have your loser...
But quali laps are the biggest and most obvious compromise for the new specs, which I don't like.
I'm hoping they work towards a bit more power from the ICE and a larger useable battery capacity - sufficient to at least get in a one power lap. It'll take years to achieve those things but it'd be great to hear that's their target ASAP.
I'm somewhere between unhappy and on the fence, so definitely not happy overall.
The PU rules have gone too far along a certain direction and now have a far too dominant influence over car performance.
I'm on the fence about the latest aero rules because of the dominance of the PU. We simply haven't got to see how the cars behave at the limits of their chassis/aero.
Qualifying is ruined now. The best bit of the weekend is gone.
The PU rules have gone too far along a certain direction and now have a far too dominant influence over car performance.
I'm on the fence about the latest aero rules because of the dominance of the PU. We simply haven't got to see how the cars behave at the limits of their chassis/aero.
Qualifying is ruined now. The best bit of the weekend is gone.
Considering the drivers were saying years ago they were not going to work and it has been proven correct to me, I am not a fan of the new rules
Would have made more sense to do a 70/30 split for 2 years then 65/35 then 60/40.
50/50 is just daft, it is not racing if you overtake then a few corners later you lose the position due to no battery
Qualifying is just a waste of time now as well, might as well set the grid on championship positions
Would have made more sense to do a 70/30 split for 2 years then 65/35 then 60/40.
50/50 is just daft, it is not racing if you overtake then a few corners later you lose the position due to no battery
Qualifying is just a waste of time now as well, might as well set the grid on championship positions
I've gone with on the fence. I miss V12s, V10s - but times are changing, audiences are changing. I've enjoyed the races (both of them) this year. The audience I feel isn't as technical as in the past - but the current owners seem to be able to tap into the demographic to a much larger extent than Bernie did. I feel to a degree it's being dumbed down, but as long as there's little groups like we have, all's good.
I am not happy with the having to lift off at the end of a straight to harvest. The fact that the car in car is cut to prevent you seeing this is clear enough.
But I am happy that the cars seem able to follow and closely race for a few laps.
Soooo currently on the fence.... But I fear Spa will really be a farce.
But I am happy that the cars seem able to follow and closely race for a few laps.
Soooo currently on the fence.... But I fear Spa will really be a farce.
On the fence, but mostly OK.
They do need to make some adjustments in my opinion, especially for Qualifying. Hopefully they've left some meat on the bones for the rules/spec of the cars that gives them some lee-way.
One thing I think they should look at, maybe for 2027, is making the tyres less s
t. There is a lot to manage on the cars now and maybe the aero/battery stuff will be enough on its own that we don't really need the tyres that drop off too quickly on top.
They do need to make some adjustments in my opinion, especially for Qualifying. Hopefully they've left some meat on the bones for the rules/spec of the cars that gives them some lee-way.
One thing I think they should look at, maybe for 2027, is making the tyres less s
t. There is a lot to manage on the cars now and maybe the aero/battery stuff will be enough on its own that we don't really need the tyres that drop off too quickly on top.I like the racing that it has generated, and as a Lewis fan boy I'm almost as disappointed with Max's sulk as I was when my ex wife told me she was remarrying.
However I don't like that they have fudged it with a boost button and regen. This feels Liberty Media told the rule engineers "this is the outcome we want, make it happen" and that sort of thing never ends well.
I also wonder how safe the battery packs are in a major crash and do the tracks have the right fire suppression readily available? We've seen enough electric car fires for this to be on someone's risk register.
However I don't like that they have fudged it with a boost button and regen. This feels Liberty Media told the rule engineers "this is the outcome we want, make it happen" and that sort of thing never ends well.
I also wonder how safe the battery packs are in a major crash and do the tracks have the right fire suppression readily available? We've seen enough electric car fires for this to be on someone's risk register.
It's a bit too early to tell, but it has potential to be positive.
Too many issues with the implementation as yet - once some of the slackers have caught up and understandings level up we'll have a better idea.
[old man shouts at clouds]If we had V10 NA engines, slimmer and lighter cars we wouldn't need all this technology for the sake of it.[/old man shouts at clouds]
Too many issues with the implementation as yet - once some of the slackers have caught up and understandings level up we'll have a better idea.
[old man shouts at clouds]If we had V10 NA engines, slimmer and lighter cars we wouldn't need all this technology for the sake of it.[/old man shouts at clouds]
Having the cars clearly more on the limit and twitchy is great, and has shown with more mistakes being made and creating racing, plus poor starts being punished! Also unreliability always adds some spice in to the overall picture.
Some of the battery battles have been good with people deploying at different points of the circuit have led to some good scraps although I suspect these will reduce over the course of the season as drivers work out whats the quickest way to the end of the race, but it has been good as different engines/cars seem better at deplying and recovering at different points of the circuit. Plus it makes some of the battles that bit more tactical as seen with Hamilton keeping various cars behind him over multiple laps by avoiding deploying at all until the back straight in China.
But the superclipping and lift and coasting at the end of the straights isn't great, although again I suspect this will improve naturally as they get on top of the engines and improve the software.
Some of the battery battles have been good with people deploying at different points of the circuit have led to some good scraps although I suspect these will reduce over the course of the season as drivers work out whats the quickest way to the end of the race, but it has been good as different engines/cars seem better at deplying and recovering at different points of the circuit. Plus it makes some of the battles that bit more tactical as seen with Hamilton keeping various cars behind him over multiple laps by avoiding deploying at all until the back straight in China.
But the superclipping and lift and coasting at the end of the straights isn't great, although again I suspect this will improve naturally as they get on top of the engines and improve the software.
Collectingbrass said:
I also wonder how safe the battery packs are in a major crash and do the tracks have the right fire suppression readily available? We've seen enough electric car fires for this to be on someone's risk register.
The batteries are in a fireproof enclosure, although due to the explosive nature high pressure gases that shoot out of a burning battery, the driver would be inclined to exit the car - because it's highly likely the fire would soon enough spread beyond the enclosure. Also just the heat, you don't want to be anywhere near something burning at upto 3000cNo real difference to the batteries they've had for years though, albeit now they're a little larger.
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